Doesn't Tesla do that as well?

No, Tesla sells internet connectivity for $10/month.

While Tesla does have a $10/m plan, you still get basic Internet without paying for it... Tesla's free is better than any other company's paid subscription.

That said, $10 is far too much for what it is, should be $5.

A Tesla costs $80k and lasts 10 years. Why are you saying $1200 for internet is too much and $600 isn’t?

Why do they even bother charging - just bundle it in with the headline price. It’s a tiny portion of the revenue, nobody is going to think “oh that $87,345 Tesla is too much I’ll go for the $86,145 one”

Tesla costs $30k https://www.tesla.com/modely/design#overview $29450 with tax incentive

Yea but that's the joke is they plan.

Toyota should also plan to expand their manufacturing capacity to pickup GMs lost sales to anyone under the age of 60.

Lol

Toyota offering a V8 (both gas and diesel) in its trucks would change the market in a big way.

I’m surprised Toyota doesn’t offer a hybrid pickup similar to Ford’s.

I wish any manufacturer offered a 250-class electric truck with a basic trim line. They probably want to sell more cars per battery for now.

Tundra Hybrid doesn't count?

No, that’s a half ton class truck (f-150 comparable). A 250 class truck (f-250, 2500, etc) is a 3/4 ton class and is what you need if you want to tow >10k pounds while having basically any load in the truck.

Tacoma and tundra both come in hybrid now

How is GM a middleman when they are producing the product I am buying which is a car? If GM bundled OnStar with a top tier infotainment / navigation / ChatGpt / I’m hungry where do I eat app, I’ll pay for that as long as it’s reasonable and lets me know I’ll be taken care of if I crash and need assistance.

They are trying to be a middleman between you and the internet.

It’s analogous to a TV and monitor manufacturer saying they are no longer providing non-wifi inputs, app side loading, or supporting screen casting from local devices.

Then the manufacturer would charge a monthly fee for the monitor to keep working.

Hopefully, next, the CEO acts surprised when reporting the resulting massive drop in shipments.

Maybe for you. If it doesn't exactly mirror the stuff on my phone, though, it's distinctly worse than using my phone. If it doesn't start playing music from my phone when I turn the car on, it's distinctly worse than using my phone. If it doesn't act like my phone does today, it's distinctly worse than using my phone.

For me, there is no room for GM to become a player here. I have friends' addresses, etc. in my iPhone's contacts and they show up on Maps. GM isn't going to do that, so GM isn't going to get my business. I'm starting to look for a new car right now, and this is a hard no. If it doesn't support CarPlay and Android Auto (both--I've used both in the last five years, and might switch back again to Android in the lifetime of my next car), it's outside my observable universe.

I would never consider buying GM. I was, in the past, a UAW shop steward.

I once bought a GM vehicle. Never again.

My family had GM cars when I was a child, decades ago. Never would I seriously consider buying a GM.

That's fair! I've looked long and hard at the Chevy Bolt in the past, but I think other car models have surpassed it.

Why would you pay for that when your phone already does all of that and you always have it on you?

GM doing top tier tech is a joke. Also, they monetize your car data.

You pay for maps on your phone?

Either you pay with your data (Google) or upfront for the phone (Apple).

I use Organic Maps on GrapheneOS and add businesses I want which aren't there (hence I had to look them up in Google Maps in Firefox Focus, which is painful enough that I don't want to have to repeat it).

You pay for cell service on your phone, which lets you access things like Google/Apple maps, spotify streaming, etc.

GM wants to charge for a separate internet service tied to your car, that still goes over the cellular networks, in order to access these exact same features in their head unit. It is completely redundant. CarPlay already offers a near perfect experience in this regard, without charging an extra monthly fee.