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Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base... by metabrew on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @07:46AM (#4012591)
Those graphs are absolutely vile.

I kept wondering how anyone who chooses hard-to-read shonky 3d bar charts like that could possibly perform a decent statistical analysis.

Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base... by wr1472 on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @08:41AM (#4012737)
Agreed, not the prettiest graphics, but you shouldn't dismiss the data & findings because of it.

Unless of course you judge the validity of a study based on the appearance of its graphs?

Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base... by davidjohnstone on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @08:46AM (#4012757)
Well, the title of the blog post is "First impressions count".

Also, the irony of that title, and the way this is a second go at this blog post...

Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base... by dnda on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @09:04AM (#4012822)
To me, authors decision to use terrible 3D graphs and non zero Y axis makes makes me suspicious of his other decisions and comments.
Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base... by john_horton on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @10:03AM (#4013079)
Agree that 3D graphs are terrible, but it's a canard that y-axes always need to start at 0 and that doing anything else is somehow misleading.

On this point, see http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/14/axes-of-evil/

Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base... by aaronjg on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @10:11AM (#4013107)
Y-axis need to start at zero when the data being presented is a bar graph and the bar is filled in. If it is a scatter plot with points being plotted, then it's generally not misleading to shift the axis.
Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base... by john_horton on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @04:16PM (#4015085)
I don't disagree with that - a bar chart that doesn't start at zero can be misleading. But for what he was trying to do---compare means---it would have been a perfectly fine choice to do a lineplot/very thin bar plot and start the y-axes somewhere other than zero if he included error bars and clearly labeled things.

http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0...

Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base... by jisaacstone on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @11:23AM (#4013484)
Annoyed me so much I quit reading half way through.

Not just that it is ugly, but also hard to read. ugh.

Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base... by bvi on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @11:44AM (#4013607)
Graphs updated, as noted above.