Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base...
by davidjohnstone on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @08:46AM
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Well, the title of the blog post is "First impressions count".
Also, the irony of that title, and the way this is a second go at this blog post...
Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base...
by dnda on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @09:04AM
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To me, authors decision to use terrible 3D graphs and non zero Y axis makes makes me suspicious of his other decisions and comments.
Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base...
by john_horton on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @10:03AM
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Agree that 3D graphs are terrible, but it's a canard that y-axes always need to start at 0 and that doing anything else is somehow misleading.
On this point, see http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/09/14/axes-of-evil/
Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base...
by aaronjg on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @10:11AM
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Y-axis need to start at zero when the data being presented is a bar graph and the bar is filled in. If it is a scatter plot with points being plotted, then it's generally not misleading to shift the axis.
Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base...
by john_horton on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @04:16PM
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I don't disagree with that - a bar chart that doesn't start at zero can be misleading. But for what he was trying to do---compare means---it would have been a perfectly fine choice to do a lineplot/very thin bar plot and start the y-axes somewhere other than zero if he included error bars and clearly labeled things.
http://www.edwardtufte.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg?msg_id=0...
Re:How people judge your intelligence and social skills base...
by jisaacstone on Wednesday May 23, 2012 @11:23AM
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Annoyed me so much I quit reading half way through.
Not just that it is ugly, but also hard to read. ugh.
Unless of course you judge the validity of a study based on the appearance of its graphs?