Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by rsynnott on Thursday April 18, 2024 @08:15AM
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Well, as somebody who likes complaining, I don’t like your new title either; evolution doesn’t ‘invent’ anything, and anthropomorphising it just confuses people (see also generative ai, grumble mutter).
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by isolli on Thursday April 18, 2024 @08:23AM
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Oh, I agree! But I did not want to make more than one change at a time ;)
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by cies on Thursday April 18, 2024 @08:50AM
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> evolution doesn’t ‘invent’ anything
Really? I think it kind of does invent. Trial and error. Back propagation. Mutation. Some randomness at conception. Sure it's a personification, but not a bad one.
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by thfuran on Thursday April 18, 2024 @09:25AM
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Evolution doesn't do back propagation.
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by arrow7000 on Thursday April 18, 2024 @11:11AM
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The evolutionary fitness of a particular adaptation helps spread the genes that causes the adaptation. I think backpropagation is a very apt description for that phenomenon
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by klyrs on Thursday April 18, 2024 @12:10PM
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That's propagation.
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by cies on Friday April 19, 2024 @04:06AM
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I stand corrected. Thanks.
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by owlstuffing on Thursday April 18, 2024 @12:30PM
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There is zero science to back that up, natural selection ≠ evolution.
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by RicoElectrico on Thursday April 18, 2024 @08:18AM
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I thought "one of" is a weasel qualifier here?
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by isolli on Thursday April 18, 2024 @08:24AM
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Indeed, but it still unconsciously invites controversy (in my opinion) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by Ensorceled on Thursday April 18, 2024 @09:06AM
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> Pet peve: I don't like superlative descriptions. They're often counterproductive, because they call for a rebuttal.
Pet peeve: People who HAVE to rebut things like superlative descriptions. They're always counterproductive, because literally nothing actually called for a rebuttal. It clutters up the conversation much worse than "well, actually" corrections.
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by thfuran on Thursday April 18, 2024 @09:24AM
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>literally nothing actually called for a rebuttal
Aside from the initial false claim, you mean?
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by Ensorceled on Thursday April 18, 2024 @10:33AM
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> Aside from the initial false claim, you mean?
Well, yes, we're talking about the superlative in the title. Everything else might be nonsense and is fair game.
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by gromneer on Thursday April 18, 2024 @09:48AM
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i don't like people who spam "well ackkktually" and make it so entire categories of phrases need to be eliminated to appease their neurosis.
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by Ensorceled on Thursday April 18, 2024 @10:47AM
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It's a form of tone policing ... "I don't like superlatives so you don't get to use them."
Re:Feathers Are One of Evolution's Cleverest Inventions
by jpsouth on Thursday April 18, 2024 @09:01PM
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What a pedantic take. I’m sure you would prefer a lot of things, but changing the title of an article you didn’t write or publish is a stretch. The articles showing off a very interesting aspect of nature and ‘one of [the] cleverest inventions’ is a fine headline without questioning how many other ‘inventions’ have occurred that might also be clever in the hopes of changing it. They’d also be ‘one of the cleverest’ if and when they get their own article.
I thought this was a aaron comment at first, then I saw a reply button, and whitewashed comment below.
How many other evolutionary inventions have you included in the comparison? What comparison criteria have you used?
I would prefer: "Feathers are an incredibly clever invention of evolution."