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Re:The Tiny Ultrabright Laser That Can Melt Steel by Thorrez on Monday April 15, 2024 @09:35AM (#40040382)
Does the Netherlands have a law against knowingly buying stolen property?
Re:The Tiny Ultrabright Laser That Can Melt Steel by devoutsalsa on Monday April 15, 2024 @10:12AM (#40040782)
Every place in the world does probably. But how would you prove an unmarked, cheap bike was stolen?
Re:The Tiny Ultrabright Laser That Can Melt Steel by Propelloni on Monday April 15, 2024 @11:20AM (#40041742)
You wouldn't but nowadays no bike is unmarked, even the cheap ones.
Re:The Tiny Ultrabright Laser That Can Melt Steel by 0cf8612b2e1e on Monday April 15, 2024 @12:27PM (#40042665)
Can’t you trivially deface an identifier?
Re:The Tiny Ultrabright Laser That Can Melt Steel by NicoJuicy on Monday April 15, 2024 @12:55PM (#40043000)
In Belgium, it's a hard to remove sticker on a consistent place with a qr code.

It would take work to remove it cleanly and/or cost money/time to paint over it.

So it's less attractive.

Ps. You'll still need to take care of your 10 k. Bike ofc.

Ps. 2 : engraving isn't done anymore since bike frames got smaller.

Re:The Tiny Ultrabright Laser That Can Melt Steel by lukan on Monday April 15, 2024 @12:34PM (#40042750)
How would you know a marked bike was stolen? Does the police offer a public listing of all the stolen bikes?

(I do not think so, but this probably would make sense)

Re:The Tiny Ultrabright Laser That Can Melt Steel by dghughes on Monday April 15, 2024 @12:39PM (#40042816)
If you can't and the owner can and if you are caught then you are liable.
Re:The Tiny Ultrabright Laser That Can Melt Steel by Thorrez on Tuesday April 16, 2024 @02:51AM (#40049047)
If the seller threatens to "steal it again".
Re:The Tiny Ultrabright Laser That Can Melt Steel by Swizec on Monday April 15, 2024 @11:27AM (#40041836)
The Netherlands famously has more bicycle thefts per year than citizens. At this point you could almost think of cheap commuter bikes as public property.

People in countries where bicycling is not seen as a personality statement generally ride very cheap city bikes around town. Last time I bought one of those in college it cost about 30eur. Is not like in SF where people ride 3000 dollar bikes to work because omg you’re a cyclist now and this is your whole identity.

Re:The Tiny Ultrabright Laser That Can Melt Steel by steve_adams_86 on Monday April 15, 2024 @11:55AM (#40042232)
Here in the part of Canada I live in, you see some of the $3000 bike identity stuff, but most people ride something in the $500–$750 range. Something practical, comfortable, reliable, etc.

There is also a growing segment of people who use $5,000–$15,000 cargo/kid carrier bikes as replacements for their cars, which is cool. But I do worry about theft of those increasing. Right now I rarely hear of it, but it seems likely to increase. Even the motors and batteries in them cost thousands alone.

Re:The Tiny Ultrabright Laser That Can Melt Steel by kwhitefoot on Monday April 15, 2024 @11:58AM (#40042275)
> think of cheap commuter bikes as public property.

Didn't Amsterdam try that with 'white bikes' in the 1970s?

Re:The Tiny Ultrabright Laser That Can Melt Steel by stevesimmons on Monday April 15, 2024 @02:57PM (#40044326)
> The Netherlands famously has more bicycle thefts per year than citizens.

No, it definitely does not!

750k bike thefts for 17.7m people. So roughly one per 25 people...

It famously has more bicycles than people!

Re:The Tiny Ultrabright Laser That Can Melt Steel by themaninthedark on Monday April 15, 2024 @03:57PM (#40044922)
Of course they have more bicycles than people, the bikes keep getting stolen!