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Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by seanmcdirmid on Sunday April 14, 2024 @01:03AM (#40028790)
The problem I have with adaptive cruise: if you set your gap too wide, usually the suggested gap, people keep swerving into it, so it makes for a very nauseating drive if you are somewhere with not enough traffic that you are moving slowly, but too much traffic that people don't have to change lanes.
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by UnserMannInK on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:00AM (#40029498)
Just yesterday I was driving in the left lane with cruise control set to the maximum allowed velocity, with the maximum gap behind a car driving in front of me. Of course someone overtook me on the right (illegal in Germany) just to swerve in front of me and then drive at the same speed, just 20m further ahead. He ended up being first at the red lights. I’ll never understand it…
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by ricardobeat on Sunday April 14, 2024 @06:51AM (#40030219)
Regardless if you’re going the limit or not, it’s illegal to cruise on the leftmost lane when you ‘re not overtaking.

They were rightly annoyed. It’s also a hefty fine if you’re caught doing this.

Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by seanmcdirmid on Sunday April 14, 2024 @10:08AM (#40031142)
If you are traveling 80 in the left lane while the right lane is locked in at 60 (trucks who are limited to power speed limits), it is simply impossible to travel in the right lane. You are constantly overtaking vehicles, so it works out legally, but, yes, if someone wants to go 90, there is a conflict. Ideally, you wouldn’t cruise in the left lane because there would be room to cruise in the right lane, but higher traffic situations don’t really allow for it (well, not so high that you can’t go 80 in the left lane).

This usually happens when you are approaching a city and are going to get a new lane or two pretty soon anyways.

Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by ricardobeat on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:34PM (#40034239)
If there was room for someone to overtake on the right I don't think your scenario applies.
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by UnserMannInK on Sunday April 14, 2024 @05:09PM (#40034499)
Well, it sort of does. Imagine your doing 100 in the left lane, as does the car in front of you and the three cars in front of them. There’s a truck doing 80 in the middle lane some 500m away. All of you are going to pass it. Now a sixth car starts tailgating behind the last in line and because there’s left a big safety gap he’s overtaking on the right.

I was the last in line, going at the exact same speed as the cars in front of me, just leaving enough space. Why would I switch lanes?

Plus it was leading to an exit anyway…

Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by rglullis on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:57PM (#40034409)
You shouldn't overtake on the right.
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by UnserMannInK on Sunday April 14, 2024 @05:11PM (#40034520)
Exactly. It’s illegal here in Germany. I don’t know if it’s ok somewhere else.
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by rglullis on Monday April 15, 2024 @04:43AM (#40038160)
It's not, and it's a bit worrying that it's not widespread knowledge.
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by dev_tty01 on Sunday April 14, 2024 @10:31AM (#40031322)
This is often true, but it varies from state to state.

https://www.mit.edu/~jfc/right.html

Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by UnserMannInK on Sunday April 14, 2024 @03:17PM (#40033600)
I know that. But what am I supposed to do when the left lane leads to the exit I want to go to?

Also: there was someone in front of me going the same speed, I just left a big gap

Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by UniverseHacker on Sunday April 14, 2024 @08:57AM (#40030765)
People don’t intuitively notice speed, they see following distance as a proxy for speed: people with longer following distances are perceived as “driving slow” and they feel they are going faster if they tailgate. Both untrue, but almost universally assumed without a second thought
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by kayodelycaon on Sunday April 14, 2024 @10:13AM (#40031182)
Wow. I’ve been driving for 20+ years and never realized this is how some people think.
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by kwhitefoot on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:13AM (#40029556)
This is not a problem, just chill out.
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by macintux on Sunday April 14, 2024 @08:40AM (#40030697)
I have to imagine the level of discomfort depends on the car. I've never ridden in a vehicle with adaptive cruise control, but if it responds quickly to someone jumping in line, that could go beyond annoying to motion sickness if it keeps happening.
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by johnmaguire on Sunday April 14, 2024 @08:59AM (#40030774)
Having owned a car with this feature, it's very uncomfortable when it suddenly and unexpectedly brakes hard to allow a car in.

And it can be very confusing to the vehicle behind you.

Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by kwhitefoot on Tuesday April 16, 2024 @09:04AM (#40051386)
Ah. I see. My 2015 Model S doesn't do that, it just gently increases the spacing until it is as it was.
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by myself248 on Sunday April 14, 2024 @01:06AM (#40028801)
Sounds like we need adaptive horn control for when people do that.
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by mcmcmc on Sunday April 14, 2024 @03:14AM (#40029290)
In America? Get ready for more road rage shootings
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by fragmede on Sunday April 14, 2024 @01:06AM (#40028800)
I'm sorry, but can't you just set it to medium or close distance if you're having problems with people jumping into your gap?
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by seanmcdirmid on Sunday April 14, 2024 @01:16AM (#40028831)
Ya you can do that, but then it feels like dangerous. When it gets like that I usually just shut it off and control distance myself (and "cough" adjust it to dissuade swerving and then back off for safety).
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by fragmede on Sunday April 14, 2024 @02:44AM (#40029177)
ah. my car doesn't have adaptive cruise control but I've rented cars that do. it took a bit to get used to medium and feel comfortable and not dangerous, but then people aren't cutting in.
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by dizhn on Sunday April 14, 2024 @09:19AM (#40030872)
From some motorcycling book I remember the right response to that is to slow down even more and maintain following distance with the new car in front of you. If we let ego go and can be home 2-5 minutes late on average all will be well.
Re:Ford Mustang Mach-E Using BlueCruise at Time of Crash: NTSB by FeloniousHam on Monday April 15, 2024 @10:46AM (#40041252)
I've found that the adaptive cruise has made me an almost "egoless driver". It does keep a conservative distance, and aggressive drivers do fill in the gap, but I don't care as much when I'm not the one on the pedal.

With the full map and destination time in front me, I don't feel the urge to game the system (or maybe I'm just getting old).