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Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by somenameforme on Saturday April 13, 2024 @01:42PM (#40024680)
There's a strong correlation between attractiveness and IQ [1], which in turn is going to result in there being a strong correlation between attractiveness and anything that higher IQ would be predictive of - which presumably includes success in court.

[1] - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01602...

Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by dctoedt on Saturday April 13, 2024 @01:58PM (#40024788)
Years ago I read that the first Rothschilds to go into banking (men, of course) were not especially attractive. Financial success supposedly helped successive generations of the men to marry attractive women, so that later generations of men in the family looked like models or movie stars. (I wouldn’t know a Rothschild if I saw one so can’t opine on that.)
Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by tazu on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:24PM (#40024980)
This is similar to Ashkenazi Jewish history where "blending in" with the native European population was crucial to their survival. Many wealthy traders married in to the aristocracy.
Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by Rinzler89 on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:07PM (#40024863)
It's not about marrying more attractive spouses for breeding better looking offspring, but what a lot of these studies miss is that wealthy people who are genetically disadvantaged have the funds the invest in their appearance to become better looking: best timely medical care, fixing teeth, becoming taller, correcting posture, hair implants, plastic surgery and skin care, hiring professional trainers and nutritionists, living in nice, quiet, green areas to reduce stress and sleep better, and other potential quackery rich people have access too like blood transfusions.

Just look at Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk before and after they became wealthy, they're better looking despite being 10-20 years older.

Basically, higher IQ can help you build wealth, and higher wealth can help you become better looking, but high IQ is not directly responsible for better looks.

Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by fincycaden on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:24PM (#40024984)
I think another aspect is that many things that are within someone's control that positively affect attractiveness require patience and long-term thinking. Working out, brushing teeth regularly, eating healthy, etc, are not enjoyable in the short-term, and people with higher IQ / more successful tend to be able to better control their impulses and have longer-term vision.
Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by Rinzler89 on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:52PM (#40025159)
>. Working out, brushing teeth regularly, eating healthy, etc, are not enjoyable in the short-term, and people with higher IQ / more successful tend to be able to better control their impulses and have longer-term vision.

That's not as easy as that.

Having dealt in your formative childhood years with poor health due to poor medical care where doctors just pump you with antibiotics and fuck you up, poor dentists and orthodontists who make your conditions worse, living in loud polluted neighborhoods where you're not getting quality air and sleep, not getting proper nutrition as a kid due to poverty, getting bullied and harassed every day leading to constant stress and anxiety, etc, all these impact your looks from your early life and are not in your direct control as you make it be, and won't easily get remedied no matter how much you brush your teeth, eat well and work out in adulthood.

Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by badpun on Saturday April 13, 2024 @03:31PM (#40025379)
> people with higher IQ (...) tend to be able to better control their impulses

Is that true? Are there studies showing that?

Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by sandspar on Sunday April 14, 2024 @04:05AM (#40029511)
? It's a truism. They have a direct relationship. There may be literally thousands of studies showing it.
Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by creato on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:23PM (#40024976)
> Just look at Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk before and after they became wealthy, they're better looking despite being 10-20 years older.

I doubt this is really true, you're just seeing the results of frequently getting photographed/recorded in staged managed situations by professional photographers, probably with makeup. That's also something that happens more often when you're wealthy.

Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by Wytwwww on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:55PM (#40025173)
Didn't Musk undergo a massive amount of plastic surgery and had other stuff like hair transplants (and presumably a lot of steroids)?
Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by bostonpete on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:37PM (#40025072)
I believe Musk was wealthy basically from birth…
Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by User23 on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:18PM (#40024945)
That’s just anabolic steroids (plus drugs to keep their testes), six hours a week at the gym, and about 1000 grams of dietary protein a week. None of that requires being a billionaire or even close.
Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by Rinzler89 on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:23PM (#40024973)
Steroids won't fix your acne, posture, teeth, wrinkles, saggy skin, asymmetric face, short height, baldness, etc.

Steroids help you quickly and easily become muscular, you'll still be ugly, but jacked.

Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by FeteCommuniste on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:35PM (#40025063)
Uruk-hai-maxxing.
Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by User23 on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:36PM (#40025066)
Proper resistance exercise will fix your posture.

As for the rest, did Mr. Bezos get a foot taller and a full head of hair when I wasn’t paying attention?

He does look healthier and happier than he did in the past though, so good for him.

Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by Rinzler89 on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:45PM (#40025120)
>Proper resistance exercise will fix your posture.

Not always Mr. Swollen.

Just going to the gym and doing random exercises might sometimes make your posture and pain worse.

That's where profesional medical help comes in, as in x-rays, doctors, physiotherapists and massage, correction surgery and implants, etc.

Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by somenameforme on Saturday April 13, 2024 @03:45PM (#40025469)
I see little reason to think Bezos is on any sort of enhancement. He previously looked like he'd literally never worked out in his life, and probably also had a horrible diet. Put somebody like that in the gym with a proper diet and routine, and they're just going to blow up fast, even when starting late. Most people can't do it for lack of self discipline, but that's one thing he seems to have no lack of. And no idea what people are saying about Musk. He just seems like a typical yo-yo dieter with a hair transplant.

Also, it's relevant that Bezos is one of the guys blowing money on life extension tech. So I think there's 0 chance he sees anabolics (or other enhancements) as a good risk:reward when he certainly fantasizes about there being a possibility of life extension happening within his lifetime.

Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by Wytwwww on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:54PM (#40025166)
> Elon Musk before and after they became wealthy, they're better looking despite being 10-20 years older.

IMHO sort of but when you massively overdo it like some you start looking pretty freakish. Also I don't think there is any evidence Bezos had any plastic surgery done? He probably just got a better stylist. Must OTH.. well...

Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by _Parfait_ on Saturday April 13, 2024 @01:58PM (#40024787)
This is interesting...considering the high IQ profession aren't seemingly littered with attractive people. I'm sure there are stronger correlations for that case though.
Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by MattGaiser on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:18PM (#40024941)
Some argue that relatively, they are.

https://www.ft.com/content/4d3b1346-2c5b-11e5-8613-e7aedbb7b...

We just don’t notice the relatively uglier people.

Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by saltminer on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:34PM (#40025055)
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Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by skybrian on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:34PM (#40025060)
Just about everything good is correlated, and also everything bad. We could also talk about the correlation between attractiveness and good health, or between IQ and healthiness, which surely works both ways, as well having common causes.

Sometimes when try to draw the casual graph, you find that it’s fully connected. There are all sorts of reasons for connections. It would be unusual for a correlation to be exactly zero.

But because people vary, it doesn’t mean that this sort of reasoning works well for individuals.

Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by unyttigfjelltol on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:33PM (#40025049)
Or the attorney has some success, spends the effort to get a professional photo, is motivated to brush their hair in the morning, and so it was better success that made them "attractive".
Re:Physically attractive attorneys tend to have greater succ... by delichon on Saturday April 13, 2024 @02:10PM (#40024884)
As an extremely handsome man I can confirm that the associated privileges and immunities are entirely based on merit.