EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water

Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by doctorhandshake on Friday April 12, 2024 @06:30AM (#40011083)

IDK about the cell phone radiation but given the trickle/torrent of bad indicators about our biology and plastic, my rule is no plastic near food, at least at home where I can control it. Definitely no freezing, heating, or microwaving plastic near food. Feels like one of the many accepted facets of space-age modern life that is too convenient to examine closely for most people, and I think it retrospect it will be viewed somewhat as we view lead in paint and fuel, asbestos in buildings, smoking in public, etc.

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by galangalalgol on Friday April 12, 2024 @08:02AM (#40011578)

We use a distiller now that is all stainless into a glass carafe. It has a small paper/charcoal filter that sits in a porcelain housing just before it drips. What is left over is gross. Not what it looks like, that is just minerals. But it smells like things I shouldn't be smelling. I'd like to build a glass only solar still to save all that power, and to avoid the high temps that I suspect are causing some reactions that release VOCs. Not all of which might be getting caught by the charcoal.

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by Nelkins on Friday April 12, 2024 @09:01AM (#40012123)

Do you have a link to the product? Interested in something similar.

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by nayuki on Friday April 12, 2024 @10:43AM (#40013502)

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=water+distiller , for example https://www.amazon.com/CO-Z-Distiller-Stainless-Distilling-C... for $116 USD.

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by galangalalgol on Sunday April 14, 2024 @07:44AM (#40030434)

https://www.h2olabs.com/p-54-white-baked-enamel-model-300-wa...

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by pyr0hu on Friday April 12, 2024 @08:54AM (#40012045)

What do you use for freezing food if not plastic containers? Heating and microwaving, okay, I can work around the plastic containers/plates, but the freezer I have no idea how I'd do that. Especially that the freezer's casing is still plastic

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by navaati on Friday April 12, 2024 @11:00AM (#40013720)

Aluminium trays, like that: https://www.emballagefute.com/img/plat-a-four-alu-sertissabl.... Yes, it’s non-reusable, pick your poison :/.

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by seszett on Friday April 12, 2024 @09:21AM (#40012434)

Glass containers work fine and come in the same shapes as plastic containers do. They are heavier and take a little more space due to being thicker, but it's a small difference.

They do have plastic lids most often, but the lid doesn't have to touch food.

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by jorvi on Friday April 12, 2024 @09:38AM (#40012711)

Yup, the IKEA one’s are more than good enough. And they’re borosilicate so you can even use them in the oven.

The plastic issue is also why I think people doing sous-vide are insane. You’re vacuum sealing meat into plastic and then giving it a nice long leeching in hot water. Sometimes with acidic foodstuffs!

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by pyr0hu on Friday April 12, 2024 @10:00AM (#40012998)

Cheers, thanks for the info! So as long as the plastic does not touch the food, I'm basically good to go?

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by RajT88 on Friday April 12, 2024 @10:35AM (#40013417)

It's become impossible to find a coffee maker where water doesn't come into contact with plastic. There used to be a pretty decent one: Gourmia GCM4900. It had some subtle design flaws, and only lasted 5 years. (If I can buy another one, I probably can somewhat mitigate that and make it last longer)

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by noduerme on Saturday April 13, 2024 @06:58AM (#40022145)

I use a moka pot. No plastic, no filters to replace. Great coffee. Takes a little bit longer but it's worth it.

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by hedora on Friday April 19, 2024 @12:06PM (#40088528)

This comes close to no plastic:

https://flairespresso.com/products/espresso-makers/flair-cla...

There's a silicon gasket, and they offer a stainless steel plunger upgrade. There is some plastic in the portafilter that coffee will touch (unless you run in bottomless mode).

The bigger problem with most espresso makers (but not the model I linked) is that they use brass for the heating block / boiler and that leaches lead into the water.

This matters less in coffee shops (where they use up the water in the boiler in a few hours or maybe a day), but a lot more at home (where you might only refill the boiler once a week or even once a month).

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by noduerme on Saturday April 13, 2024 @07:02AM (#40022169)

One thing I am sad about where I'm exposed to a lot of plastic but have little choice is that I wear a dental guard at night. This probably more than makes up for all the plastic food contamination I avoid in other ways. But after shattering three teeth from grinding in my sleep (waking up to a loud crack and an exposed nerve), I've decided it's the lesser of two evils.

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Re:EPA Says 'Forever Chemicals' Must Be Removed from Tap Water by doctorhandshake on Monday April 15, 2024 @05:33PM (#40045883)

Funny you say that because I have an appointment with my orthodontist this week to discuss whether or not I can have a permanent retainer so I can stop wearing the plastic one they gave me. If the answer is no, I’ll just forgo the retainer and deal with crooked teeth. I don’t want to sleep with plastic in my mouth every night.

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