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Re:Yes, Social Media Is a Cause of the Epidemic of Teenage M... by satvikpendem on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @03:16AM (#39987866)
How is this example any different than what the parent has said? If people feel these platforms are negatively impacting them, they should stop using them. Or do you believe others or the government has a right to disallow what people want to watch via their own choices? You may call it brainwashing but others may disagree.
Re:Yes, Social Media Is a Cause of the Epidemic of Teenage M... by graemep on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @04:30AM (#39988328)
> If people feel these platforms are negatively impacting them, they should stop using them.

The problem is how to stop the mob attacking you from using them.

An American equivalent might be if social media existed a 100 years ago and was being used to encourage lynchings. Yes, it really is that bad in some places.

The problem is that FB does moderate things relevant to the US but ignores the rest of the world. They will remove white supremacist material in the US, but not the equivalent elsewhere.

Re:Yes, Social Media Is a Cause of the Epidemic of Teenage M... by satvikpendem on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @05:31AM (#39988717)
The solution is in the problem, network effects. If everyone stopped using them due to deleterious effects, the problem is would solve itself.
Re:Yes, Social Media Is a Cause of the Epidemic of Teenage M... by graemep on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @07:05AM (#39989331)
Yes, but how do you get "everyone" to stop using the? I use FB purely because of network effects. I hate it, but there would be a real cost to not using it.
Re:Yes, Social Media Is a Cause of the Epidemic of Teenage M... by satvikpendem on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @09:53PM (#39997664)
What is the cost? The excuses in this entire thread are quite weak and overblown. Some people are really saying their kids should continue using these apps they know are harmful simply because they would be socially outcast otherwise, which is simply not true.
Re:Yes, Social Media Is a Cause of the Epidemic of Teenage M... by carlosjobim on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @12:28PM (#39992584)
Why do you think a lynch mob would stop using social media when they are excellent tools for them to use to organise lynchings?
Re:Yes, Social Media Is a Cause of the Epidemic of Teenage M... by satvikpendem on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @12:30PM (#39992606)
Notice how the government made lynchings illegal, not the method of communicating such actions.
Re:Yes, Social Media Is a Cause of the Epidemic of Teenage M... by olibhel on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @05:18AM (#39988637)
> do you believe others or the government has a right to disallow what people want to watch via their own choices

Yes. As an extreme example: watching cheese pizza is not allowed by governments. We have collectively also come together to consider murder as socially and legally unacceptable. We can and should regulate social media if posts read as follows:

- we should invade and bomb that country to bits - we should destroy all places of worship belonging to XYZ religion - we should vote for XYZ because only he is going to save our religion from PQR - and much worse which I can't type here as moderation team of HN would omit those

IMHO: give the current form of social media another few decades and it will come out shinning bright just like opioids did in the USA.

These same social media platforms, when required by law, become very effective in moderation but there's next to no moderation in my country and most of the hate and abuse is counted as just another engagement metrics.

Re:Yes, Social Media Is a Cause of the Epidemic of Teenage M... by satvikpendem on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @05:30AM (#39988710)
Watching CP and murdering people is in no way comparable to any of those bullet points you made. Generally in the US at least, uniquely among many nations, the principle and constitutional right of the freedom of speech reigns supreme over many, many others, so there is no chance that any of those bullet points would (or should, given such a principle) be regulated.

One can and should be able to espouse those beliefs, regardless of whether they are true or not, because the alternative is much worse, where the rights of such exposition are severely curtailed. Hell, someone got arrested for taunting the Queen in the UK, something that legally cannot happen in the US had a similar person taunted a government official.

Re:Yes, Social Media Is a Cause of the Epidemic of Teenage M... by Fricken on Wednesday April 10, 2024 @06:32AM (#39989115)
Hate speech and incitements to violence against the Rohingya precipitated for years on Facebook. Deleting the app would not have saved the Rohingya from getting genocided.