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Re:It's Dante's Hell–We're Just Living in It by tivert on Monday April 08, 2024 @04:21PM (#39973304)
> The hosts of hell remain strong and defiant even while in their realm of eternal torment ... Meanwhile heaven is pretty bland and the angels come of as a bunch of milquetoasts.

That reminds me of the observation that happy lives make boring stories, so fiction tends towards showing dysfunctional characters, awful environments, or both.

Re:It's Dante's Hell–We're Just Living in It by QuercusMax on Monday April 08, 2024 @05:20PM (#39973853)
I believe it was Tolstoy who said something to the effect of "Happy families are boring, because they're all the same. Unhappy families are interesting because they're all different."
Re:It's Dante's Hell–We're Just Living in It by perihelions on Monday April 08, 2024 @06:11PM (#39974268)
Re:It's Dante's Hell–We're Just Living in It by bombcar on Monday April 08, 2024 @11:56PM (#39976083)
Tolkien echoed the same thing in The Hobbit:

“Now it is a strange thing, but things that are good to have and days that are good to spend are soon told about, and not much to listen to; while things that are uncomfortable, palpitating, and even gruesome, may make a good tale, and take a deal of telling anyway.”

And we see it on HN itself, there are many "very good" stories that get posted that get a lot of upvotes but few comments because really all there is to say is 'very good'.

But stories about bad things happening get thousands of comments.

Re:It's Dante's Hell–We're Just Living in It by wredcoll on Monday April 08, 2024 @05:36PM (#39973985)
Also what we perceive as "heroic" especially in a fantasy/super-hero context, tends to ultimately be status quo preserving, which frequently means the villains tends to be the "cool" "disruptive" characters, and if the world isn't sufficiently perfect then it's easy for some people to start believing that any disruption is justified.
Re:It's Dante's Hell–We're Just Living in It by 082349872349872 on Tuesday April 09, 2024 @05:00AM (#39977530)