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Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by dudus on Thursday April 04, 2024 @05:10PM (#39935839)
I just signed up for this genAI summit but the lack of social buzz and the profile of the organizers give me a strange feeling.

https://genaisummit.ai/#/

I'm afraid this is might be a fake conference created by AI. Am I crazy? I paid $500 for tickets. I almost signed up for the booth.

I'll have to start emailing speakers for confirmation because it's not passing the smell test.

Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by nickff on Thursday April 04, 2024 @06:07PM (#39936394)
Why did you sign up for a conference if you’re so uncertain as to its credibility and content? Is this an employer-sponsored outing?
Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by dudus on Friday April 05, 2024 @12:23AM (#39938659)
I thought it was cheap. It said last tickets. I don't know ... that was stupid.

It looked interesting at first. But when I started to research more I didn't find any buzz.

I reported the event to eventbrite

Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by geraldhh on Friday April 05, 2024 @03:59AM (#39939815)
sounds like you're getting cold feet from a sense of guilt for falling pray to fomo.
Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by rsynnott on Friday April 05, 2024 @07:55AM (#39941275)
Huh, I had no idea that people signed up for these things on this basis. Possibly explains why there are so many weird conferences out there; if you build it, they will apparently come, without even first checking what it is.
Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by antonvs on Thursday April 04, 2024 @05:42PM (#39936115)
It says "Sponsored by Microsoft AI Co-Innovation Lab".

You could try emailing them ([email protected], from their website) and asking whether they're really sponsoring that conference.

Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by StevenHarlow on Thursday April 04, 2024 @06:05PM (#39936369)
Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by duskwuff on Thursday April 04, 2024 @08:53PM (#39937607)
The Palace of Fine Arts is a theater, not an exhibit hall. It's a completely unsuitable location for a conference.
Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by bjterry on Thursday April 04, 2024 @09:25PM (#39937788)
I don't think this is true. My startup had a couple desks in the Palace of Fine Arts when they had an ill-fated attempt to convert part of it to a co-working space. They shut down co-working to turn it into a full-time event space. The building is basically one giant room, with a raised mezzanine floating above part of the floor. It has one small permanent theater on the north end, and they convert the southern end into a larger theater for music shows, and this is the seating chart being shown in the above link (I saw a Ninja Sex Party show there one time, but this theater isn't reflected on the tour photos. When I was working there in 2016 it was an exhibit for Hunger Games).

https://palaceoffinearts.com/tour/

Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by duskwuff on Thursday April 04, 2024 @09:35PM (#39937837)
The event link makes it look like it's just referring to the theater. It even mentions a "door time".

Even if it is the whole hall (which used to be the Exploratorium, back in the day), there's still no way in hell they'd get 30,000 people inside. According to https://palaceoffinearts.com/info/, the maximum capacity of the facility is 5,000, and even that would be very crowded.

Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by bjterry on Thursday April 04, 2024 @10:55PM (#39938256)
> there's still no way in hell they'd get 30,000 people inside

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that would be physically impossible, unless they are planning on hosting most of the conference on the grounds, parking lot and maybe surrounding streets.

Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by Loughla on Thursday April 04, 2024 @09:08PM (#39937687)
Conference, yes. Sales pitch and/or hype presentation, no.

It may be real?

Edit: down below it says this theater will Host a conference of 30k people. No it won't. This is a scam.

Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by TuringNYC on Friday April 05, 2024 @05:59AM (#39940612)
>> The Palace of Fine Arts is a theater, not an exhibit hall. It's a completely unsuitable location for a conference.

This is not the case -- The Palace of Fine Arts is an excellent conference location - expansive and with mezz levels for private presentations, etc. I've done several conferences there and also presented.

It has beautiful outdoor garden spaces for relaxed 1:1s and doesnt feel at all like SF as most people imagine.

Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by samename on Thursday April 04, 2024 @05:28PM (#39935991)
Instagram and Twitter links in footer don’t work… I’d do a chargeback with your credit card
Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by motoxpro on Thursday April 04, 2024 @05:33PM (#39936025)
Same. This is the twitter link https://twitter.com/GPTDAOGLOBAL

30,000 attendees for a conference is MASSIVE. Like a GDC or SEMA or something. One of the biggest in the world. Unless it's happened before, then I have a hard time believing they just spun this up out of nowhere.

Edit: Would also have more sponsors. 2k to sponsor that/get a booth is WAAAAAY to cheap.

Edit2: Also one of the sessions is. "... text2video, text2audio, text2multimodal, text2richcontent" Sounds like a ChatGPT thing. Wild that they used, like you said, Ai, to generate an AI conference and genAI. Very meta

Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by soganess on Thursday April 04, 2024 @07:11PM (#39936975)
Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by moogly on Friday April 05, 2024 @06:44AM (#39940834)
GPTDAO eh? Only missing NFT and FSD.
Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by soganess on Thursday April 04, 2024 @06:18PM (#39936497)
Apparently, it happened in 2023[1] (with a much more modest 1500 people claimed in attendance) but I can't find any photos.

Good luck with the charge-back. I'm sure your bank will eventually be accommodating after you explain what happened and jump through enough hoops.

[1] https://sv2023.genaisummit.ai/

EDIT: I found these photos, but don't have a linkedin, so I can't verify anything about the presenter:

https://images.app.goo.gl/UaVfRUAU8YnQrmek6

https://images.app.goo.gl/yszbyq8fhEvoHcfi6

https://images.app.goo.gl/1ybWTJ4wPhuHt5R16

EDIT 2: It seems to be this person, who appears to have worked at microsoft last year : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMSu0gmlD3w

Maybe it is fine after all?

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Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by seabass-labrax on Thursday April 04, 2024 @06:00PM (#39936313)
That's a needlessly harsh judgement! To use an analogy, one should reasonably be able to attend a forensics conference without ending up as a forensics case themselves. Also, generative AI isn't just for creating fakes.
Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by themoonisachees on Thursday April 04, 2024 @07:01PM (#39936890)
Harsh judgement maybe but to me paying $500 for tickets to a convention about anything is drinking the kool-aid about that thing.
Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by nanocode on Thursday April 04, 2024 @07:42PM (#39937190)
I don't know about all conferences, but in my line of work most conferences cost up to $2000 or even more (for example "late tickets" to a conference I'm attending in June cost $3000). I guess enough people (or rather, employers) consider it valuable enough to pay this price.
Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by themoonisachees on Friday April 05, 2024 @02:26AM (#39939258)
Yes, but you'd not be the one buying the tickets, your employer would.

As we know, prices that can be expensed out have a tendency to be considerably larger.

Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by bigiain on Thursday April 04, 2024 @07:15PM (#39937007)
Some of the best advice ever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-7o9xYp7eE

Never talk to cops.

Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by throwaway290 on Thursday April 04, 2024 @10:03PM (#39937988)
Fake conferences is not a new scam, I saw many of them in 2020 at least. Almost fell for one. It's sad and I feel for you if it's fake but it's probably not "created by AI".

(and it would be "created with" at best, it's people who do things)

Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by sajforbes on Friday April 05, 2024 @06:31AM (#39940779)
I'm a bit confused about your reasons for signing up, but it looks real to me. It could be with all the buzz around AI it really did see a large surge in interest. I'd be interested to hear from the founders and how they managed to grow so quickly.
Re:Fake AI law firms are sending fake DMCA threats to genera... by fragmede on Friday April 05, 2024 @06:56AM (#39940893)
It's listed on the Palace of Fine Arts page, so GPTDAO has booked the space for the event. Last year's event was at SCC, and had 1,500 people, so they're expecting 3,000, not 30,000. I'd email them to tell them about their typo, but it's real.

https://www.palaceoffinearts.org/event/genai-summit