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Re:7 out of every 10 Fentanyl pills seized by DEA contain a ... by worik on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @10:21PM (#39925860)
Opiates, and many classes of illegal drugs, do very little harm.

Addiction is the main feature, and if the substance has no artificial scarcity, addiction is easy to manage.

There is no basis on harm reduction for the drug policies being pursued in most of the world

Re:7 out of every 10 Fentanyl pills seized by DEA contain a ... by FredPret on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @10:27PM (#39925901)
Tell this to the addicts who live on my sidewalk. Many of them got started on pain killers, and now they're permanently bent over in the fentanyl flop; I'd be astounded if any of them ever get better.
Re:7 out of every 10 Fentanyl pills seized by DEA contain a ... by throwaway74432 on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @10:40PM (#39925990)
Worik's argument appears to be, if people had an unlimited supply of drugs, things would be better than a limited supply. It sounds a lot like the perspective of someone who has never listened to a recovering addict.
Re:7 out of every 10 Fentanyl pills seized by DEA contain a ... by worik on Thursday April 04, 2024 @02:56PM (#39934424)
> sounds a lot like the perspective of someone who has never listened to a recovering addict.

Many

I came of age in a culture awash with herion

I have first hand knowledge of the harms done to drug addicts by criminalising them

Re:7 out of every 10 Fentanyl pills seized by DEA contain a ... by robwwilliams on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @11:29PM (#39926251)
The definition of harm is context-dependent. I think you mean that opiates and other drugs, addictive or not, when “taken at a safe dose in a health young adult” will not significantly degrade basic body function.”

But opiates taken over a relatively short time can and often do greatly impair CNS neurotransmitter systems and downstream behaviors—-in some cases causing almost irremediable dysfunction. This happens to a sizable subpopulation of humans; more than 10% of physician-prescribed oxycontin users. Genetics and social context modulate vulnerability.

This is definitely not “little harm”.

Re:7 out of every 10 Fentanyl pills seized by DEA contain a ... by worik on Thursday April 04, 2024 @02:59PM (#39934459)
> opiates taken over a relatively short time can and often do greatly impair CNS neurotransmitter systems

That is untrue

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Stewart_Halsted is a counter example

"Throughout his professional life, he was addicted to cocaine and later also to morphine...."

Re:7 out of every 10 Fentanyl pills seized by DEA contain a ... by robwwilliams on Thursday April 04, 2024 @05:56PM (#39936273)
You link for support for your opinion thar all drugs are benign to a Wiki entry if a scientist who died in 1922—-before there was a field of neuroscience?

My rejoinder could be 10,000 peer-reviewed papers in this millennium.

Re:7 out of every 10 Fentanyl pills seized by DEA contain a ... by worik on Friday April 05, 2024 @04:57PM (#39947114)
> You link for support for your opinion thar all drugs are benign to a Wiki entry if a scientist who died in 1922

Who pioneered keyhole surgery

> rejoinder could be 10,000 peer-reviewed papers in this millennium.

Nonsense.

Re:7 out of every 10 Fentanyl pills seized by DEA contain a ... by ProjectArcturis on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @10:27PM (#39925911)
Long-term opiate use can really mess up your bowels. Matthew Perry nearly died of a perforated colon a couple years before he finally died from other drugs.