Re:'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing spr...
by mandmandam on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @08:04PM
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These lines aren't working any more.
You don't get to massacre tens of thousands of people because they fight back against brutal occupation and repeated massacres, then paint yourself as the victim.
The world's eyes are open. We've seen what happened to those WCK aid workers; to Hind Rajab, to Reem and Taleb, and all the others. We've seen the mosques, churches, hospitals destroyed, and the wilful, wanton disregard of international law and basic decency.
What Israel has done over the last six months hasn't made Israelis safer, nor Jews. These atrocities won't ever be forgotten.
Re:'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing spr...
by bloaf on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @08:19PM
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There has been no period in the past nearly 100 years[0] when these two groups have not been fighting. I'm not assigning anyone "victim" status. I'm saying Israel is trying to end the conflict, and has run out of other options.
You didn't answer my questions.
Re:'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing spr...
by xyzelement on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @09:15PM
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What happened to trigger the events of last October which in turn triggered this.
Hamas had the run of Gaza and could have built whatever society they wanted there. They used that chance to built up for explicitly slaughtering civilians instead.
Re:'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing spr...
by ceejayoz on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @08:58PM
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> There is a great reason for doing it: nothing else has worked.
Re:'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing spr...
by 8note on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @09:39PM
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As an alternative, liberal democracy and convincing people via talking rather than fighting or dehumanizing people?
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by azinman2 on Thursday April 04, 2024 @12:40AM
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See above about rejected talks and deals
Re:'Lavender': The AI machine directing Israel's bombing spr...
by flyinglizard on Friday April 05, 2024 @01:33PM
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Where exactly is that magical Arab country where a liberal democracy could be installed and maintained?
Unilateral withdrawal from Gaza led to the tripling of rocket attacks. Multiple peace offers have been rejected. Limited Israeli retaliation and extensive international aid has meant the Palestinian civilian population is sufficiently insulated from the violence that they have no incentive to demand peace from their leaders.
When Palestine was sending children as suicide bombers, Israel decided to play defense and built walls that dramatically lowered the efficacy of suicide bombings. So the Palestinians switched to rockets. So Israel again played defense and built the iron dome. So Hamas switched to Oct. 7th. Do you think they should play defense again?
Tell me: what peace offer do you think Israel could make the Palestinians that would lead to a lasting peace? Tell me: if Israel surrendered unconditionally to the Palestinians, would the Israelis live in peace?