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Re:Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in acces... by jabroni_salad on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @10:31AM (#39918016)
Opera has been bundling in a mail client, rss reader, calendar app etc for ages now. I also always thought it was weird but Opera people seem to like it, to the point that inspired browsers like Vivaldi also do that.
Re:Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in acces... by nailz1911 on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @11:04AM (#39918428)
FYI Vivaldi is run by ex-CEO and co-founder of Opera. =)
Re:Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in acces... by Rinzler89 on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @11:34AM (#39918817)
>Opera has been bundling in a mail client, rss reader, calendar app etc for ages now.

Opera has been bundling stuff like that, even a BitTorrent client, even when they were still a Norwegian owned company.

Re:Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in acces... by methuselah_in on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @01:03PM (#39919986)
Sorry? They are Chinese
Re:Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in acces... by Rinzler89 on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @01:07PM (#39920053)
What I said above. Opera was Norwegian before that. Which part confuses you?
Re:Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in acces... by fragmede on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @06:38PM (#39924212)
Now they are. Previously, they were Norwegian.
Re:Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in acces... by jcranmer on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @11:13AM (#39918539)
Didn't Netscape bundle in a mail client before Opera did?
Re:Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in acces... by guestbest on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @11:35AM (#39918836)
Netscape had a separate email and html composer application suite in the late 1990s. Opera had it built in along with a torrent client that couldn’t be separated from what I remember in a package that was smaller than almost all feature complete stand alone web browsers from 2003 and onwards.
Re:Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in acces... by abdullahkhalids on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @01:44PM (#39920570)
Something like that. Mozilla used the Netscape code to first create Mozilla Application Suite and then SeaMonkey[1]. It had Mail, IRC chat and a composer.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SeaMonkey

Re:Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in acces... by asadotzler on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @05:17PM (#39923285)
Yes. 3 years before Opera. Netscape shipped Communicator in June of '97, the suite that added email and calendaring to browsing, based in part on their Collabra groupware acquisition in '96. Opera released v4 in June of 2000, three years later, with its email client.
Re:Opera becomes the first major browser with built-in acces... by attractivechaos on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @12:26PM (#39919458)
> Opera has been bundling in a mail client, rss reader, calendar app etc for ages now

No longer the case since they switched to Blink. Nonetheless, Opera still comes with more built-in functionality than other browsers, such as ad blocker, in-browser VPN, and builtin ads occasionally.