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Re:Tesla's 'nightmare' year continues as a big drop in deliv... by avgDev on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @04:30PM (#39910549)
Tesla needs a new leader.

Tesla used to appeal to logical car buyers but once you really research it as an option it quickly stops being a good choice.

1. Poor build quality

2. FSD = broken promises, danger to other road users

3. Expensive and lengthy repairs after accidents

4. High insurance rates compared to non ev

5. Supercharging is expensive, often not worth to buy an EV for non-home owners

6. Poor service, gaps or issues "up to spec"

7. Lack of 3rd party OEM part manufacturing

8. Expensive out of warranty battery replacement, which renders the car useless

9. Elon says a lot of stupid shit and many might not want to support him by buying his product

10. Used Tesla prices have collapsed, with some dealers even refusing to take in as a trade in

For these reason I would not buy a Tesla right now. I feel like buying a hybrid Honda will be cheaper over a 15 year period. I understand many love Tesla here as it is tech centered forum, so I expect counter arguments.

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Re:Tesla's 'nightmare' year continues as a big drop in deliv... by kelipso on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @04:41PM (#39910643)
A lot of these things are just not fixable within the short term either, so a new leader probably won't improve things much. Take poor build quality, for example, which takes many years of iteration to improve.
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Re:Tesla's 'nightmare' year continues as a big drop in deliv... by bamboozled on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @05:01PM (#39910809)
9. Elon says a lot of stupid shit and many might not want to support him by buying his product

I think this is actually a bigger thing than people realize though. Initially I think Elon was the selling point, people liked him more and wanted to support him. Not anymore.

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Re:Tesla's 'nightmare' year continues as a big drop in deliv... by kelipso on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @05:35PM (#39911109)
I don't know about that, maybe in the tech nerd crowd that's true. But repair costs and mainly Teslas being very unreliable and breaking down a lot has been going viral on instagram and probably tiktok for months.
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Re:Tesla's 'nightmare' year continues as a big drop in deliv... by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @05:58PM (#39911297)
> maybe in the tech nerd crowd that's true

I live in Wyoming. I know two people who passed on buying a Tesla because they didn’t want to be the jackass driving around town making that sort of a political statement.

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Re:Tesla's 'nightmare' year continues as a big drop in deliv... by rgersten on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @06:27PM (#39911533)
That’s my experience as well. My non-techy potential EV buyer friends are split on Tesla. Group A thinks the range and specs are industry leading, for now. Group B wants nothing to do with Tesla regardless of how good or bad the cars are because of Elon.
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Re:Tesla's 'nightmare' year continues as a big drop in deliv... by 6th on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @10:53PM (#39913155)
EV's in Group B would be awesome!

Bring on Group B-EV

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Re:Tesla's 'nightmare' year continues as a big drop in deliv... by thejazzman on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @08:53AM (#39916801)
The only point I ever hear any non tech person say is that they hate Elon and won't buy the car. Period.

5-10y ago these people were gushing to see the frunk and talking about how they can't wait to afford one.

He should be awarded soothing recognizing the absolutely massive amount of goodwill that he created and destroyed in about 1 decade

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Re:Tesla's 'nightmare' year continues as a big drop in deliv... by jhonof on Thursday April 04, 2024 @08:28AM (#39929545)
Anecdotally this is mostly correct, but I also have heard non tech people acknowledge how hard it is to get parts/repair the cars as a downside as well.
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Re:Tesla's 'nightmare' year continues as a big drop in deliv... by acdha on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @10:13PM (#39912937)
It won’t be quick but I would bet that they could make fairly big improvements quickly if they had a less chaotic leader: someone who acknowledges the problem and makes it their top priority instead of chasing impulses or being obsessed with something which would be cool if it worked but doesn’t. I guarantee that there are people in that organization who know how to improve reliability but aren’t empowered in a culture of intimidation.
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Re:Tesla's 'nightmare' year continues as a big drop in deliv... by TechTrendster on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @04:06AM (#39914739)
You forgot poor cost-cutting decisions that have reduced their utility as actual cars. No parking sensors, no rain sensors, no stalks, no gear shifter, no physical AC controls.

I'm not undoing 20+ years of driving muscle memory just so Elon can make a few bucks extra profit per car.

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Re:Tesla's 'nightmare' year continues as a big drop in deliv... by euroderf on Wednesday April 03, 2024 @05:46AM (#39915303)
Why is there not a website with sensor parts lists and 3-D print files so that you can festoon your Tesla with all the latest sensor and tangible-UI technology ?
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