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Re:AI used well can restore middle class jobs [pdf] by asdff on Monday April 01, 2024 @05:30PM (#39899611)
On the other hand, offshoring of manufacturing and the emergence of computers should have reduced the workforce but we saw the opposite happen. There might not be truck drivers in the future but maybe those people will just be working different jobs, like how I am not a blacksmith making horseshoes today.
Re:AI used well can restore middle class jobs [pdf] by xpe on Monday April 01, 2024 @06:01PM (#39899920)
One should not assume a linear relationship with technological progress and employment. Just because people find substitutes for work at a certain rate doesn’t mean this will continue. The rate of finding a suitable substitute will plummet, and I will tell you why.

As technology becomes more intelligent, the human comparative advantage shrinks. But what is likely to happen? Don’t look to the past. Look at the fundamentals of the system dynamics.

Consider an analogy. The differential equation that governs blackbody radiation depends on the difference between the object and the environment. Similarly, a person’s earning capability is proportional to the difference between their capability and the next best option. As the next best option gets better and better, the human differential advantage craters.

Max Tegmark uses the metaphor of a rising ocean to signify the ever greater capabilities of intelligent machines.

AI isn’t just coming for low-skilled jobs. It isn’t just supplementing knowledge work. AI will take more and more intellectually demanding jobs. This arguably doesn’t even require AGI. This just requires industry deploying capable AI’s that can do enough tasks to replace humans one industry at a time.

So people that have an ownership stake in these AIs will do fine.

My take: The others should demand a universal basic income. How do we find ways to allow people to live good lives? People that weren’t lucky enough to be born into the right places in society don’t deserve to be displaced by AI.

If you read the AI literature, I’m not alone in what I’ve said above.

Granted, I’m also not offering particular time frames and not covering all future scenarios. But what I’m saying is more considered than the usual default ‘reasoning’ you hear people say.

Re:AI used well can restore middle class jobs [pdf] by 2devnull on Monday April 01, 2024 @07:28PM (#39900616)
Post hoc ergo propter hoc. Offshoring didn’t increase jobs. That’s absurd.
Re:AI used well can restore middle class jobs [pdf] by asdff on Monday April 01, 2024 @07:40PM (#39900714)
Higher population and 4% unemployment would suggest jobs have increased since
Re:AI used well can restore middle class jobs [pdf] by 2devnull on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @05:31PM (#39911080)
You don’t know latin I see. Post hoc ergo propter hoc is a well known fallacy where one assumes that something that follows an event in time was caused by that event.