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Re:Tesla starts using 'Supervised Full Self-Driving' language by m463 on Saturday March 30, 2024 @01:52AM (#39872198)
I believe the bigger problem is that the tesla models are increasingly being designed in a way that makes it harder for the driver to directly control the car.

Newer tesla cars are removing or degrading critical controls.

The ability to turn on defrost, use the turn signals, shift into forward or reverse, neutral or reverse is all being hobbled by cost-cutting controls.

There is no shift lever (car guesses) and there are no turn signal/light/wiper stalks.

Some functions have buttons on the steering wheel, which rotates and moves the buttons.

Defrost and other critical controls are on the touchscreen and it has gotten harder to reach out and access controls with each new model.

(and I am someone who likes tesla)

Re:Tesla starts using 'Supervised Full Self-Driving' language by t888 on Saturday March 30, 2024 @02:24AM (#39872336)
Shift lever? Tesla’s don’t have a multi-speed transmission. What are you talking about?
Re:Tesla starts using 'Supervised Full Self-Driving' language by somerandomqaguy on Saturday March 30, 2024 @02:25AM (#39872343)
Shift lever as in Park, Reverse, Neutral, and Drive.
Re:Tesla starts using 'Supervised Full Self-Driving' language by t888 on Saturday March 30, 2024 @10:04AM (#39875012)
Why is it so important those controls be on a lever? It’s not the only car to put them somewhere else?
Re:Tesla starts using 'Supervised Full Self-Driving' language by akerl_ on Saturday March 30, 2024 @12:57PM (#39876494)
It's pretty much the only car that puts them on the touch screen, yea.
Re:Tesla starts using 'Supervised Full Self-Driving' language by paulryanrogers on Saturday March 30, 2024 @02:58PM (#39877599)
As long as they are physical controls that a person can find and operate while focusing on where they're trying to go. Levers are familiar to hundreds of millions, so that's a safe bet. Changing it without good reason is unwise.

Using touch screens that require visual inspection is irresponsible.