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Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by kranke155 on Friday March 29, 2024 @11:38AM (#39865383)
It’s wild that we are speculating that this was a contract killing. Or revenge killing of some sort.

Is it possible he did to himself so Boeing would be made responsible ?

Not of murder I mean, just made responsible for all the safety and engineering violations he talked about.

Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by John_Cena on Friday March 29, 2024 @12:20PM (#39865850)
It's wild to comprehend what you supposed when one entity is an actual person and another is a corporation
Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by smodo on Friday March 29, 2024 @11:47AM (#39865483)
In that case I’d say it’s far more likely he suffered tremendously from the position he found himself in and wanted to end his life to stop his suffering.

But my money is on Boeing having leaned on him to such a degree that he saw no way out.

Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by AtlasBarfed on Friday March 29, 2024 @12:45PM (#39866154)
Large corrupt corporations are only slightly better than organized crime.

What does organized crime do with inconvenient witnesses?

Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by ALittleLight on Friday March 29, 2024 @12:02PM (#39865656)
Why is that wild? Witness dies in the middle of testifying against X - seems perfectly reasonable to wonder about whether X had anything to do with it. Given Boeing's seeming lack of regard for human safety in recent years (which was also the subject of the testimony if I understand correctly), I don't see any reason to think Boeing would consider murder out of bounds.
Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by barbazoo on Friday March 29, 2024 @01:20PM (#39866591)
Occam’s razor. I’d imagine the gap between organization level negligence and contract killing is wider than you think. Don’t get me wrong, they might have a big responsibility in the death but we won’t know that for a while, if ever. Don’t spread these wild rumours though unless you have something to base them on.
Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by jjk166 on Friday March 29, 2024 @02:06PM (#39867140)
Boeing's systemic disregard for safety and law are not wild rumors. While the full extent is still being uncovered, we know enough to say it happened.
Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by barbazoo on Friday March 29, 2024 @02:23PM (#39867342)
Not what I said. I was talking about the death being murder being the rumor.
Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by jjk166 on Friday March 29, 2024 @03:21PM (#39867950)
Speculating that something could be possible is not spreading a rumor. The only claim they made was that Boeing disregarded human safety.
Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by mikestew on Friday March 29, 2024 @01:59PM (#39867066)
After reading about the amateurs at eBay, I'm perfectly willing to entertain the idea that a large corporation who deals in military contracts might just take things one step further. Sure, I fully admit that I'm letting movie plots run wild in my head here, but I'm not ruling out the possibility. What, you think Rudolf Diesel just fell off that boat, too?

But it is all just conspiratorial at this point. Whether Diesel was pushed or fell, we'll never know and unfortunately won't for John Barnett, either.

Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by senkora on Friday March 29, 2024 @03:52PM (#39868289)
Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by Remnant44 on Friday March 29, 2024 @06:16PM (#39869579)
I've never heard this before.. absolutely wild, thanks for sharing.
Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by dr_kiszonka on Saturday March 30, 2024 @11:35AM (#39875830)
I have just learned about it too. eBay agreed to pay $3 million.

https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/01/11/settlement-reached-in-e...

Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by K0balt on Friday March 29, 2024 @07:48PM (#39870301)
The military industrial complex connection is potentially pretty significant. Any number of players may have been motivated to bring the noise level down or keep certain things out of the public eye, and it’s not that much of a stretch to go from selling killing to buying just a little bit.
Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by jjk166 on Friday March 29, 2024 @03:16PM (#39867903)
It's wild that people find such an idea unthinkable.

The dude was suing Boeing for their retaliatory actions against him in an effort to shut him up about the safety violations he was in the middle of testifying about.

Just in 2022 there was a case of murder-for-hire of a whistleblower at a contract tree-cutting service in Georgia [0].

It's not common, and we shouldn't presume guilt, but it's very far from unprecedented.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Eliud_Montoya

Re:Family of Boeing whistleblower John Barnett speaks out fo... by veidr on Saturday March 30, 2024 @10:22AM (#39875170)
Not that wild. It's not like Boeing would convene a board meeting and take a vote, "should we hire a contract killer to eliminate this threat?"

When a company hires a killer to kill somebody, it is almost always[1] one person, or perhaps in rare cases a couple people, within the company who do it to protect themselves and what they have, or what hope to get, or sometimes, sure, for revenge or because they're nuts. Just like when natural people hire people to kill people.

That's why I liked the movie Michael Clayton. It was the only realistic[2] movie about that scenario.

Alternatively, sure — your scenario is also quite plausible. Who knows? Not us. But neither scenario, nor the other "Boeing or some subset thereof leaned on him so hard without actually doing murder, and maybe even without actually doing anything criminal, that he thought his life was effectively ruined and so killed himself" seems "wild" to me. All plausible.

[1]: source: it's obvious

[2]: regarding the actual mechanics of "how 'a company hires killers to kill somebody' works" — not necessarily the rest; it's still a Hollywood movie