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Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by Bostonian on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @04:42PM (#39844362)
'We’re conducting in-person interviews for the Summer 2024 batch for current undergraduate or graduate students at universities in the northeastern US.'

Why are recent BA/BS, MS, and PhD graduates excluded?

Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by throwaway2016a on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:06PM (#39844597)
Looks like it's a special opportunity for students to interview early and not excluding non-students from interviewing through the normal process. Maybe they are concerned the interviews may be overrun with professional founders and they only have 1 day?
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by MontgomeryPi2 on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:36PM (#39844888)
Maybe an end-around? Here are some Harvard summer courses... https://courses.dce.harvard.edu/?srcdb=202403&summer_school=.... (a long time ago now, I landed a job this way because I said I was "studying at Harvard")
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by dang on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:35PM (#39844876)
College outreach has been part of YC's recruiting efforts for years. It doesn't mean others are excluded. Certainly everyone who wants to should apply for Startup School!
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by confoundcofound on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:56PM (#39845087)
Would be of great service if YC were more upfront about its biases to applicants. The narrative that YC is an accessible path for anyone seems to contradict the actions taken.

Where is the outreach to those outside of elite academic and professional circles?

Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by robertlagrant on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @06:47PM (#39845541)
Everyone has biases. They don't have to enumerate them at all times. What do you actually want?
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by haltIncomplete on Thursday March 28, 2024 @02:23AM (#39848266)
For YC/HN to peddle fewer platitudes, euphemisms, and equivocations.

At what point does preservation of this hallucinated wealth game become forced conservation of history and get in the way of the “freedom” part?

Why are we socially trained to accept “people say Musk is rich so it must be true?”

It’s all a socialized hallucination backed by government force. It’s kind of a huge joke.

Let’s just get drunk and shoot pistols at the workers feet. At least it’s honest.

Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by robertlagrant on Thursday March 28, 2024 @04:45AM (#39848930)
> Why are we socially trained to accept “people say Musk is rich so it must be true?”

We're not socially trained for this. People don't think it's true because people say it. They think it's true because he owns a large stake in a lot of extremely valuable companies.

Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by haltIncomplete on Thursday March 28, 2024 @10:39AM (#39852140)
Owns is a socialized concept. It’s not immutable physics

We learn what it means as far as ground truth from socialization

Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by robertlagrant on Thursday March 28, 2024 @10:53AM (#39852349)
Okay, but "rich" isn't, if you've accepted people can own things.

Not killing people is a socialised concept. I don't think this banale-fact-dressed-up-as-criticism of "is a social construct" is worth much. And if it is, it's also a social construct, as are the words used to communicate it. So should we then ignore it?

Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by haltIncomplete on Thursday March 28, 2024 @11:37AM (#39852839)
People can own things != minority of people should own all the things. Gradients, ranges, distributions, not binary.

If it’s so banal it would have no influence but you seem to accept the underlying; “banal” facts have power and social concepts are mutable. So you push back with empty rhetoric, over generalizing others to avoid the powerful fact socialized society is hallucination.

I never criticized “social concepts” either. I criticized our current social concept. Others can be propagated. Your banal attempt to generalize specifics is a lame rhetorical approach where you both accept socialized society as a concept but refuse to debate its specifics (that would require actual effort not just miming money/assets changed hands via paperwork).

May as well browse r/conservative as all HN is ever shipping is fealty to who we say is smart and rich but never requires them to prove it, but requires us to kneel and kiss the rings regardless, as if spoken tradition and written records are real evidence of skill and accomplishment when billions are spent reminding us these things are true.

Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by robertlagrant on Tuesday April 02, 2024 @06:51PM (#39911717)
> People can own things != minority of people should own all the things. Gradients, ranges, distributions, not binary.

You've just described capitalism, and our current situation.

Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by somedumderp on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @06:34PM (#39845417)
They won't be honest about their biases or their response. But appreciate the callout <3
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by ramijames on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:00PM (#39844530)
Or those of us with no degrees and decades of experience?

I'm in Boston.

Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by internetter on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:27PM (#39844789)
Presumably because they want to work with students instead of people with decades of experience?
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by throwaway35777 on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:53PM (#39845054)
Students are willing to work hard for free for the 0.001% chance that they'll be the next Mark Zuckerberg.
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by internetter on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:59PM (#39845114)
> Students are willing to work hard for free for the 0.001%

The best startups run lean anyway. I'd argue this is the proper way to run one, as opposed to taking mountains of VC money and burning up in a year

Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by rchaud on Friday March 29, 2024 @11:21AM (#39865147)
Also won't raise as many eyebrows when they're taught how to manufacture valuations with little to no basis in reality.
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by beastman82 on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:51PM (#39845040)
Or perhaps this is ageism
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by internetter on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:58PM (#39845107)
Forgive me as I have little sympathy for middle aged adults calling "agism!!!" whenever an opportunity is presented to a college student that wasn't also presented to them
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by endisneigh on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @06:44PM (#39845511)
I mean isn’t that literally ageism? I don’t have any opinion on whether it’s acceptable or not here but come on…
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by internetter on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @10:26PM (#39847116)
There's also no rules saying middle aged adults cannot be college students. The only agist policy here is that you need to be 18 to apply, and nobody bat their eye at that.
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by endisneigh on Thursday March 28, 2024 @05:51AM (#39849246)
Yes there are. A 50 year old man cannot enter Harvard college.
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by internetter on Thursday March 28, 2024 @07:35AM (#39849891)
1 in 10 college students in the US is 40 or older
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by endisneigh on Thursday March 28, 2024 @08:00AM (#39850128)
That’s not relevant - the schools in the area do not have undergraduates in their middle age.

Middle aged college students usually attend extension schools part of the university, but not part of the undergraduate college.

In any case there’s no strict limitation on being an undergraduate at say 60 (I believe Harvard Colleges oldest graduate was in their 80s), but it’s so exceptionally rare it’s ageism.

There’s no reason why one would need to be an undergraduate.

Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by sodality2 on Thursday March 28, 2024 @07:13AM (#39849731)
Why not?
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by endisneigh on Thursday March 28, 2024 @08:01AM (#39850132)
That’s simply their rule.
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by sodality2 on Thursday March 28, 2024 @08:18AM (#39850303)
Where is this rule? Even in your other reply you say there's "no strict limitation" so it's not a "rule", just a trend.
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by endisneigh on Thursday March 28, 2024 @08:52AM (#39850651)
Dorm rules mainly. Like I mention in a sibling comment, given the demographics and the arbitrariness of the decision it’s effectively ageism without being explicit.
Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by Arisaka1 on Thursday March 28, 2024 @05:44AM (#39849207)
I do think you are entitled to filter for a specific age group implicitly, but it doesn't make it any less discriminatory.

Example: statistically the odds of someone graduating from college being over 30 are low. Therefore if I claim that I hire college graduates I get to also filter implicitly by age.

Then the question is: assuming an inherent bias of sample, is it desirable or undesirable to introduce a "function" that attempts some mitigation? I see the "functions" that attempt to mitigate sexism, racism but not ageism.

It feels like companies or organizations are just fine with slapping a paragraph at the end of an announcement that parrots "we are inclusive trust us" without any real adjustment and call it a day.

Re:Want to start a startup? Meet all the YC partners in Bost... by graiz on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @05:01PM (#39844550)
Why assume that they are excluded?