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Re:Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extra... by graemep on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @08:26AM (#39826984)
I suspect part of the answer is that most or all countries regard leading information to the the public to be far worse than leaking it to other countries.

> Every country is potentially spying on every other country and it doesn't even matter if they are supposed to be allies or enemies.

Very true. The UK spying on Belgium and the US spying on Germany come to mind., but that is "business as usual" and no one expects it to change or start going after people involved.

Re:Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extra... by K0balt on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @09:00AM (#39827284)
Espionage and disclosure are two different things.

Espionage is expected and deterred as possible but because everyone has spies everyone tends to play nice when they get caught, because they don’t want their own agents mistreated.

Disclosure, on the other hand, threatens the power structure of all players.

People need to understand that the every person is meant to be firmly under the foot of the ruling class, and understanding the mechanisms by which this is accomplished is verboten. The excuses range from “what about the children” to “national security” but the goal is the same - maintaining a healthy imbalance of information and power.

Anything that significantly threatens that imbalance will be met with extreme prejudice. JA overplayed his hand and underestimated the willingness of those involved to absorb casualties in order to stem the proliferation of infrastructure which might work against that treasured monopoly of coercion.

Encryption, distributed systems, anonymous networks, and related technologies are the only effective means to provide a counter to the asymmetric threats that endanger our personal agency.

These technologies are much more important to a free society than any possible harm that they may facilitate. Those harms existed before the internet, and will not go away if they are made slightly more difficult.

The ability to pervasively maintain an efficiently functioning surveillance state requires the internet, and P/A technologies are critical to countering the efficiency of this capability.

Re:Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extra... by FpUser on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @09:59AM (#39827905)
>"everyone has spies everyone tends to play nice when they get caught"

Nope. "Nice" only comes if they are exchanged. Otherwise just rot in jail.

Re:Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extra... by K0balt on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @05:17PM (#39832967)
Sure, but they are assets at least. JA is most useful as an object lesson in fear.
Re:Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extra... by sourcepluck on Wednesday March 27, 2024 @06:47AM (#39837471)
"Encryption, distributed systems, anonymous networks, and related technologies are the only effective means to provide a counter to the asymmetric threats that endanger our personal agency."

Here here, well said.

Re:Julian Assange granted permission to appeal against extra... by hnbad on Tuesday March 26, 2024 @07:04PM (#39833827)
FWIW there was a special investigation into the US spying in Germany but it didn't lead anywhere because there was no political desire to create any consequences. It seems to boil down to everyone in government who was affected already having been aware that the US is likely spying on them and shrugging it off as a cost of doing business with the US. Additionally the US used to have a legal provision in West Germany that provided them a carte blanche for various covert ops shenanigans due to the outcome of World War 2. Officially this contract ended eventually but everyone aware of that history seems to be certain that it was merely replaced by similar but less publicly visible agreements.