U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone monopoly

Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by lotsofpulp on Thursday March 21, 2024 @01:04PM (#39781303)

I would bet most people already know using an Apple product and agreeing to the Find My and other terms in intial setup means Apple is always tracking you. So a pop up from Apple saying that Apple is tracking you makes no sense, it is already known, and accepted by the device user.

Someone other than Apple tracking you, however, is notable, and so people (at least I) would always want to know if someone other than Apple is tracking me via software operating on the device.

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Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by InsomniacL on Thursday March 21, 2024 @01:12PM (#39781440)

I would bet most people buying tracking devices know those tracking devices are tracking location.

The point is Apple as a platform provider made something (location without warning) on the platform available to themselves as a platform user (Airtags), that they didn't make available to other platform users who are their competitors (Tile).

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Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by jchw on Thursday March 21, 2024 @01:24PM (#39781624)

But, some Apple apps do in fact tell you that. This actually does make sense, too. When you collect information for one specific reason, it doesn't mean the user has granted you consent to use it for other purposes carte blanche.

One might retort "Fine, but then granting that permission once is enough." Apparently, that is only true sometimes, and only for Apple.

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Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by Draiken on Thursday March 21, 2024 @01:08PM (#39781367)

Why? Because a user allowed them to track them when using one app, it doesn't mean should extend automatically that to every app they ever develop.

This is clearly Apple apps being treated differently.

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Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by positus on Thursday March 21, 2024 @02:11PM (#39782248)

I'm pretty sure you're asked whether or not you want to enable Location Services when going through Setup Assistant during the initial device provisioning.

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Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by lotsofpulp on Thursday March 21, 2024 @01:21PM (#39781561)

>Why? Because a user allowed them to track them when using one app, it doesn't mean should extend automatically that to every app they ever develop.

The whole point of the notification is to notify you when an entity is tracking you. If you already know Apple is tracking you, then it does not make a difference if Apple's App A or App B or App C is tracking you, it is all Apple.

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Re:U.S. sues Apple, accusing it of maintaining an iPhone mon... by Draiken on Thursday March 21, 2024 @01:34PM (#39781760)

I must be missing something because that's simply not true in Android. I can individually grant/revoke tracking permissions for each app. I assumed the same would be true for iPhone.

For me it makes no sense to make it only about the entity. It's like saying "the US government is tracking you", instead of saying "the US government is tracking you through this app right now"

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