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Re:Berlin's techno scene added to Unesco intangible cultural... by downWidOutaFite on Friday March 15, 2024 @03:11PM (#39719567)
This sounds similar to what's happened in Oakland, CA. When I moved here 25 years ago there was a huge underground music and arts scene in West Oakland warehouses but the last 10 years of gentrification has wiped it out. After the pandemic (and constant right-wing propaganda) Oakland is now once again deemed a wasteland and businesses are fleeing, but I've started noticing a new youth culture is slowly starting to emerge here and there.

I've seen the pattern in several other places as well: arts thrive in the affordable undesirable edges of society until it generates enough buzz for capitalists to notice it and move in seeking to profit off of it. The problem is that culture is not valued in capitalism because it has no landlord.

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Re:Berlin's techno scene added to Unesco intangible cultural... by Gibbon1 on Friday March 15, 2024 @04:30PM (#39720387)
The crackdown on all the spaces after the Ghostship fire basically obliterated it. Says something about the civic culture in the US that they chose to just wipe those spaces out instead of just making sure they were safe.
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Re:Berlin's techno scene added to Unesco intangible cultural... by ambicapter on Friday March 15, 2024 @07:39PM (#39721819)
"making sure they were safe" What a weird thing to say. Places like Ghostship are built on not following the rules. You think they're going to follow the rules on fire safety? You want the authorities to spent their time and energy trying to enforce rules on a place who's raison d'etre is to be anti-authority? Sounds like a waste of everyone's time.
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Re:Berlin's techno scene added to Unesco intangible cultural... by Gibbon1 on Saturday March 16, 2024 @05:27PM (#39729625)
Why is that weird? The Ghostship was a nightmare firetrap that the code enforcement people knew about and did nothing. In a perfect world they'd have done their job and 36 people would still be a alive. In a less perfect world they'd be in prison.

Most of the places they shut down were mostly fine.

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Re:Berlin's techno scene added to Unesco intangible cultural... by kwere on Saturday March 16, 2024 @05:54AM (#39724552)
>culture is not valued in capitalism because it has no landlord

intellectual property is the way to monetize intangible culture

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