Re:Court docs reveal Epic CEO's anger at Steam's 30% fees
by Wowfunhappy on Thursday March 14, 2024 @05:11PM
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> Well, they subsidize hardware, so they sell their hardware, as far as I can tell from widely published reports, at a loss, and so the fee needs to cover that
That seems totally reasonable to me.
Re:Court docs reveal Epic CEO's anger at Steam's 30% fees
by MR4D on Thursday March 14, 2024 @05:18PM
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Epic doesn't build any hardware, and charges Devs 12% to build an add-on for Fortnite. [0]
Why 12% ? That's not cheap for what is essentially basic ACH billing service.
If I go to get a service like that, I have several vendors to choose from and only pay about 1/4 that price. [1]
Maybe someone should sue Epic for unreasonable pricing.
[0] - https://www.theverge.com/2023/3/9/23630864/epic-games-store-...
Re:Court docs reveal Epic CEO's anger at Steam's 30% fees
by Onawa on Thursday March 14, 2024 @05:49PM
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An ACH billing service.... That is built on top a game platform. 12% doesn't seem bad, compared to Roblox. Pretty sure last I saw, developers were only getting 30% of the sales from Roblox add-ons.
Re:Court docs reveal Epic CEO's anger at Steam's 30% fees
by riku_iki on Thursday March 14, 2024 @05:37PM
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> Perhaps, just perhaps, they are worth it because if they weren't the it would be easy to create a platform.
It is maybe easy to create a platform, but much harder to beat network effect.
Re:Court docs reveal Epic CEO's anger at Steam's 30% fees
by superbman on Thursday March 14, 2024 @05:16PM
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> He is fighting everyone's 30% fees.
>
> Perhaps, just perhaps, they are worth it because if they weren't the it would be easy to create a platform.
Perhaps. And perhaps its monopolistic behaviour. If so, we all stand to win by challenging it.
> WTF???? So if you lose money, the he isn't going to sue you, but if you make money, then he will sue you.
Sounds like Sweeney is suggesting the hardware itself is sold at a loss, not that console manufacturers make no money.
He is fighting everyone's 30% fees.
Perhaps, just perhaps, they are worth it because if they weren't the it would be easy to create a platform.
Proof of his absolute stupidity is here [0], where he says (referring to MS, Nintendo, and Sony), "* Well, they subsidize hardware, so they sell their hardware, as far as I can tell from widely published reports, at a loss, and so the fee needs to cover that*".
WTF???? So if you lose money, the he isn't going to sue you, but if you make money, then he will sue you. At this point, I hope someone destroys his damn company due to a slip & fall lawsuit. God, I can't take his shit anymore!!!
[0] - https://www.gamesindustry.biz/epic-explains-why-it-hasnt-sue...
/rant