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Re:Care by jachee on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @09:51PM (#39699841)
Take away enough dark patterns and you eventually kill Capitalism. :)
Re:Care by keb_ on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @10:16PM (#39699964)
Shh you can't say that on Hacker News.
Re:Care by _factor on Thursday March 14, 2024 @01:15AM (#39700800)
I know you’re being mildly facetious, but profit doesn’t come from thin air (or does it?). If you spend $.30 to grow and ship bananas and charge $1, that $.70 difference is just a made up number by what you hope is a fair market. A dark pattern is just a way of maximizing that difference unethically.

I’ll ignore the clustering and trust structures that form naturally, but those are long-term dark patterns as well.

Re:Care by smaudet on Thursday March 14, 2024 @02:46AM (#39701149)
> profit doesn’t come from thin air (or does it?)

It doesn't. Its supposed to come from your operating costs (cost of living + insurance costs). That is supposed to be where the prices come from, the problem is the insurance...if the cost of insurance approaches infinity due to infinite uncertainty, then "dark patterns" become "coping mechanisms". Not that I'm saying airline booking websites are in the moral right here, or anything - but someone thought they needed a raise, or to provide stock holders with a quarterly increase, because of rising cost(s) (or greed, but that's just another way insurance costs increase).

Re:Care by hawski on Thursday March 14, 2024 @04:27AM (#39701574)
What do you mean practically by: "the cost of insurance approaches infinity due to infinite uncertainty"?
Re:Care by edwr on Thursday March 14, 2024 @04:45AM (#39701641)
In the same way the risk premium of a financial security is proportional to its riskiness.
Re:Care by andsoitis on Thursday March 14, 2024 @05:16AM (#39701795)
> operating costs (cost of living + insurance costs). That is supposed to be where the prices come from

That isn’t the only way to set price.

Common methods are:

- Value-Based Pricing

- Cost-Plus Pricing (your example)

- Competitive Pricing

- Psychological Pricing

- Dynamic Pricing

- Bundle Pricing

- Promotional Pricing