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Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @11:00AM (#39692045)
> Why shouldn’t Europeans do the same with US social networks then?

We’re not your foreign adversary? (If we are, we shouldn’t have an obligation to defend you.)

This bill permits TikTok’s sale to a European owner. It just bans its ownership by a foreign adversary country.

Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by dbspin on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @11:25AM (#39692428)
You're not a foreign adversary - you're a colonial overlord. If a European or other US 'ally' nation attempts to act against American 'national interest' their government is swiftly toppled - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alleged_CIA_involvement_in_the...

More often they don't get elected at all due to coordinated media campaigns influencing elections https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CIA_activities_in_the_United_K...

The US Army literally have an entire army unit dedicated to running propaganda campaigns on social networks internationally. It's ludicrous to suggest this isn't employed to impact political and social policy in 'friendly' nations. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/mar/17/us-spy-op...

That being said, there are worse things than Pax Americana. I'd certainly rather living under US influence than CCP. I'd be the first to argue that NATO has prevented another war in Europe. But lets not deny the reality on the ground.

Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by colonCapitalDee on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @01:23PM (#39694442)
You're making some extremely strong claims, with minimal evidence. I don't deny that the CIA can be pretty nasty to 2nd and 3rd world governments, but claiming the US is a "colonial overlord" over our European allies is just not true. The first priority of our European allies is domestic politics; just like us, everyone wants to get re-elected. Sometimes domestic politics push countries towards the US, sometimes they pull them away. Countries like Hungary and Turkey make diplomatic trouble for the US, and we don't launch coups against them. The US would love it if Germany built up a decent military, but Germany isn't because the political will just isn't there. Between the 60s and the 90s, France literally left NATO. Europe in general has been extremely slow to scale up artillery production to support Ukraine (the US has been better, although but not by much); if the US had as much power over Europe as you think we do, we would have just told Europe to up production and they would have. But this did not happen.
Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by nozzlegear on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @07:45PM (#39698971)
> You're not a foreign adversary - you're a colonial overlord.

Phrasing?

Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by RyEgswuCsn on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @12:03PM (#39693172)
Gangs also offer to "defend" local businesses from other gangs.
Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by nozzlegear on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @07:50PM (#39699009)
And friends offer to help friends. Enough of this nefariousness.
Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by RyEgswuCsn on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @10:02PM (#39699902)
I am afraid there are no such thing as "friends" when it comes to international politics...
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Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @11:23AM (#39692396)
> You are not american. Why are you pretending to be such here?

Thank you for letting me know. I am glad to have learned as much from an internet comment the day after renewing my passport!

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Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @11:33AM (#39692598)
> don't know where you grew up but we don't write neighborhood with a u. Nice try though.

Yes, America is a multiethnic and multicultural state. We’ve even had natural-born citizens—who served in office—born abroad. That said, our baseline public education could apparently use some help.

Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by simpletone on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @11:39AM (#39692709)
> Yes, America is a multiethnic and multicultural state.

This wreaks of straw man.

> We’ve even had natural-born citizens who served in office born abroad.

What? Are you saying you are a government employee pushing propaganda here? You aren't making much sense.

Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @11:41AM (#39692749)
> Are you saying you are a government employee pushing propaganda here?

Yes, everyone who has heard of John McCain works for the government.

I hope you get the help you need. (Genuinely [1].)

[1] https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline

Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by simpletone on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @12:03PM (#39693186)
Just as I figured. You even comment like all the foreign propagandists online. No doubt you do most of your work on reddit. Because that's exactly the response you get from propagandists working there.

Do you get paid to do this? Are you working for free? Are you with a private organization or with a government?

Thank you for removing all doubt. I wasn't 100% certain until now.

Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @12:18PM (#39693428)
You, sir, are a linguist [1]!

[1] https://languagelog.ldc.upenn.edu/nll/?p=2518

Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by dang on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @04:59PM (#39697443)
You also broke the site guidelines repeatedly in this thread, including with personal attacks. I know the other commenter was being provocative, but it's not ok to post the way you did in response.

If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules, we'd appreciate it. Note this one:

"Don't feed egregious comments by replying; flag them instead."

Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @06:03PM (#39698131)
You’re right. Sorry. Didn’t realise the original accusation hit a nerve—that’s on me. (Thank you.)
Re:House passes bill to force TikTok sale from Chinese owner... by dang on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @04:58PM (#39697424)
You broke the site guidelines extremely badly in this thread—way over the line at which we ban accounts. Moreover, you've been doing it in other threads too - e.g.:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39682943

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39636608

and we've already asked you once: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39362247.

I'm not going to ban you right now but we need you to review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and start following the rules strictly. No more personal attacks, especially.