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Re:F-35 Program Achieves Full Rate Production by samstave on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @08:45PM (#39686729)
EDIT: Sorry - The article was about it took 17 YEARS to work out all these bugs...

So - it reminded me of the thought of the 737max bugs that boeing is plagued with right now...

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I'm really curious to know how much of all these billions we are sending out to all these wars will come back to this project?

Also, in a general aviation sense, I think all planes should have a link to their service records.

I think that service records should be required to be made public for ALL large transit modals; sea, air, rail, etc.

A restaurant has to publicly post their health score.

Thoughts

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I just thought of: there should be public data sets from the FAA with all service records for all licensed commercial aircraft - and an llm fine tuned to produce ratings and spot errors.

This I think would be an epic(ly) hard thing to do, however the current Boeing Catastrophuk ESP with the 'suicide' of the Whistleblower would be good leverage to force this law.

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Actually I asked BING to GPTify this thought more succinctly, and got a pretty pretty pretty good response:

For Boeing’s crash data over the last 40 years, I can provide a general overview. However, specific annual data might not be readily available in a single source.

Here’s what I found:

Here is every Boeing Safety event Since 1970 on the NTSB site

https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/ResultsV2.aspx?queryId=d6cc0483-0...

Boeing 737 Accidents: As of February 2024, there have been a total of 529 aviation accidents involving all 737 aircraft [0]

Boeing’s Annual Summary: Provides insights into the safety of commercial air travel worldwide, including accident statistics [1]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_accidents_and_incident...

[1] https://www.boeing.com/content/dam/boeing/boeingdotcom/compa...

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/boeing-whistleblower-john-bar...

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Re:F-35 Program Achieves Full Rate Production by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @08:50PM (#39686778)
> service records should be required to be made public

We’re still talking about military aircraft?

Re:F-35 Program Achieves Full Rate Production by zx8080 on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @08:58PM (#39686841)
Tax money spent on it. Does it effectively make every every taxpayer citizen a shareholder? Shareholders deserve to know project spending and efficiency.
Re:F-35 Program Achieves Full Rate Production by JumpCrisscross on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @09:24PM (#39687054)
> Shareholders deserve to know project spending and efficiency

One, shareholding is a bad analogy for democracy.

Two, shareholders—and voters in a republic—delegate responsibility, including the responsibility to protect secrets. Our spooks would kill for China or Russia’s air force service records, and for good reason: it lets you exploit patterns and limitations.

Re:F-35 Program Achieves Full Rate Production by zx8080 on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @03:17AM (#39688810)
> shareholders—and voters in a republic—delegate responsibility

How about accounability of those who manage?

> shareholding is a bad analogy for democracy.

Why?

Re:F-35 Program Achieves Full Rate Production by zx8080 on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @03:20AM (#39688827)
vote => no accountability smells bad. As leads to misfeasance.
Re:F-35 Program Achieves Full Rate Production by nine_k on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @09:03PM (#39686877)
Was the money spent on the Sprint rocket interceptor spent well?
Re:F-35 Program Achieves Full Rate Production by dylan604 on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @09:03PM (#39686871)
Yeah, that came across to me as weird take as well. Like they have a point they really want to make, but just comes across very tone deaf to the actual conversation at hand (if not just missed/ignored).

I was reading service records as what conflicts it had been in, and what it's record was during those conflicts. It took a second that they were conflating this like it was a Boeing passenger plane type of thing. oy vey! There might have been a big whooshing sound as the point flew.

Re:F-35 Program Achieves Full Rate Production by samstave on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @09:16PM (#39686976)
EDIT: Sorry - The article was about it took 17 YEARS to work out all these bugs...

So - it reminded me of the thought of the 737max bugs that boeing is plagued with right now...

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Well, I just looked up every boeing safety event on NTSB since 1970:

https://www.ntsb.gov/Pages/ResultsV2.aspx?queryId=d6cc0483-0...

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But thats for commercial...

Im going to dig into this more and make a separate post in r/aviation..

Re:F-35 Program Achieves Full Rate Production by ClumsyPilot on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @08:59PM (#39686845)
> all these billions we are sending out to all these wars

We are sending these billions to domestic defence industry, that will sending older equipment to various wars, and we are keeping the newer stuff