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Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by agrippa on Monday March 11, 2024 @12:59AM (#39665048)
Should be “Europan” since “European” modifies “Europe” not “Europa”
Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by bee_rider on Monday March 11, 2024 @02:29AM (#39665386)
You might be grammatically correct but it is much more confusing and funny to speculate about the possibility of European life.
Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by soco on Monday March 11, 2024 @04:39AM (#39665895)
European life: "am I a joke to you?"
Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by shiroiushi on Monday March 11, 2024 @02:08AM (#39665296)
If "Europa" is modified with an 'n' to form the demonym "Europan", is the star Vega properly modified the same way with an appended 'n' to form the demonym "Vegan"?
Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by kazinator on Monday March 11, 2024 @02:33AM (#39665399)
Yes and it has appeared that way in sci fi.
Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by murkt on Monday March 11, 2024 @02:38AM (#39665419)
For more confusion, let’s call some star “Vegetary”.
Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by amarant on Monday March 11, 2024 @03:52AM (#39665711)
Oh! Now I want to try some Vegan meat!

Not to be confused with vegan meat, much less Vegan vegan meat!

Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by pc86 on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:58AM (#39668317)
I can't articulate why but I feel like "vegan Vegan meat" is more grammatically correct than "Vegan vegan meat."
Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by DiggyJohnson on Monday March 11, 2024 @03:27PM (#39672308)
Your intuitions are correct. We follow modifier ordering in English. Most aren’t aware of it.

You can start here: https://learnenglish.britishcouncil.org/grammar/english-gram...

Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by shiroiushi on Monday March 11, 2024 @09:34PM (#39675212)
It's amazing: I only learned about that when I when I was middle-aged, reading some internet article. But as a native English speaker, I subconsciously already knew this rule, somehow, like it's hard-wired somehow. They never taught this to us in school.
Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by DiggyJohnson on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @12:24AM (#39676181)
They don’t need to teach you this. I don’t see why that’s an oversight. There’s much to being fluent in a language like this that we take for granted.
Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by shiroiushi on Tuesday March 12, 2024 @03:08AM (#39676893)
That's what I mean: you just learn it by being immersed in the language and hearing it every day and only knowing that language, so you learn to use it the way everyone around you uses it. So there's actual rules to the language that, as a native speaker, you're not even aware are rules. It probably took some ESL person to notice this rule even existed, and to figure out how it actually worked and write it down.
Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by amarant on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @11:03AM (#39692096)
Reading this link, I'm wondering if my initial formulation wasn't correct after all? It depends on how you categorize "vegan" but in the link they state that "material" is the only group of adjectives that comes after "nationality", and of the categories listed, I'd say vegan fits the "material" category best?

Or am I misinterpreting something?

English is my second language, but I do want to speak it as well as possible, hence my efforts to understand this topic. I do apologise for pestering you all with these questions tho.

Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by amarant on Wednesday March 13, 2024 @05:15AM (#39689435)
You're probably right! I sometimes unconsciously apply Swedish grammar to the English language. Thanks for pointing it out to me, TIL!
Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by interestica on Monday March 11, 2024 @02:32PM (#39671769)
Yeah. But same spelling, different sound when spoken.

Like Dominican/Dominican. (The Dominican Republic and Dominica share the same demonym when written, but it tends to have a different prononciation).

Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by beAbU on Monday March 11, 2024 @02:06AM (#39665287)
Well, in some languages "Europa" is how it's called.
Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by hamilyon2 on Monday March 11, 2024 @06:53AM (#39666529)
Well, in some languages "kernel", "nucleus", and "cannon ball" is the same word. Just imagine hilarity talking about military and software.
Re:Jupiter's ocean moon Europa, thought to be habitable, may... by sdenton4 on Monday March 11, 2024 @10:37AM (#39668775)
Some people are just gluttons for pun-ishment.