Canada, like most other global north countries (regions), cannot maintain its economy - at least in the expected way, that is of ever-increasing GDP as has been the trend for the last 75+ years - based upon birth rate alone. We are below the replacement rate. Demographics, another aspect of the so-called poly crisis whereby we see and interact with the world through the lens of the left-brain hemisphere, isolated and reductionist, rather than a necessary and more holistic "big picture" global view.

For an interesting and relatively plain language view:

https://www.ecosophia.net/an-unfamiliar-world/

>cannot maintain its economy - at least in the expected way, that is of ever-increasing GDP as has been the trend for the last 75+ years - based upon birth rate alone. We are below the replacement rate.

For analysis of any arbitrary economy, why should the economic-performance layer be in any way coupled to the number-of-people-living-in-the-country layer? I've been through two microeconomics classes, and one macroeconomics class, and none of the professors said "By the way in order for our theories to hold up you need to birth more people, so get cracking."

We could reduce our immigration rate by over 90% and still have net-positive growth. Why is birth rate relevant?

This is a bad argument. The birthrate is bad IS because the economy is badly ran. The per capita gdp is shrinking and people just can't afford the kids in Canada. Canada economy is essentially controlled by various cartels. The housing crisis is manufactured. Importing people is a vicious circle.

If you really want a positive example about how a Developed country can be with an ok birthrate without much immigration. Look at Japan

Is the last one a joke? (I'm asking for real if it was sarcasm) From my understanding, Japan birthrate is dramatic.

If it is not intended as a joke, and I completely apologize upfront, the tone can't be conveyed through chat, could you expand a bit?

My poor knowledge was that Japan's birthrate is possibly the example of "things going bad"

Not a joke. Considering Japan has almost 0 immigration birthrate, the population is almost purely domestic, the number is really not that bad. China and Korea are much worse.

"Our job market"? Is hacker news only intended for a US audience?

Is it extremist to be pro immigration? Or are they extremely pro immigration?

There are some very vocal anti-immigration people in Canada - like the grandparent post.

It is not anti-immigration to not want to be the fastest growing country in the world.

Indeed. If you can’t protect yourself from your government’s efforts to keep wages suppressed through importing labor while also ignoring the housing crisis, it is logical to be anti immigration. That’s not racist or xenophobic, that’s economic self preservation.

C'mon, no.

In Canada it's openly discussed that recent immigration policy could be excessive. It's not a fringe anti-immigrant viewpoint, it's discussed in the media and at the dinner table.

Canada is a very pro-immigrant country, but there is nuance in the discussion

https://abacusdata.ca/unmasking-public-unease-with-canadas-i...

They are so pro immigration that they are extremists. The American equivalent would be your population growing by 14 million in the last year. Would you support this? Our unemployment rate is rising and we have a severe housing crisis but they will not reduce the rate.

US gets approximately 0.5% to 0.7% population growth from immigrants, Canada is gets around 1% to 1.2%.

But US gets 2+ million illegal immigrants annually, which adds another 0.6%.

So US and Canada both have very similar immigration rates after all.