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Re:Apple Terminated Epic's Developer Account by gopher_space on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @03:10PM (#39620758)
> Don't like what MS is doing with their app store? Fine just release the binary yourself.

Whip up a small windows binary and send it to your mom. See if she can run it without any help from you. MS is doing the same thing from a different angle.

Re:Apple Terminated Epic's Developer Account by abhinavk on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @04:12PM (#39621532)
* Signed .exe works but has a cost.

* Unsigned .exe gets a security prompt to Run/Don't Run for the first time.

* MSI has an installation wizard.

* MSIX has a simple Install prompt like PWAs.

Re:Apple Terminated Epic's Developer Account by donmcronald on Thursday March 07, 2024 @07:14PM (#39636231)
Are you saying I can distribute an unsigned MSI or MSIX without a SmartScreen warning? Are you sure about that? Others are saying the same thing, but I didn't think that was possible.

Can someone explain it you happen to know?

Re:Apple Terminated Epic's Developer Account by nottorp on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @03:47PM (#39621220)
Eh, you create a msi including all dependencies with tools provided to you by Microsoft free of charge and without restrictions. And mom gets a start menu icon.

Can you do the same on iOS?

Re:Apple Terminated Epic's Developer Account by gopher_space on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @07:47PM (#39623747)
If I don't think of cost as a fundamental issue, what differences would I see between either approach? They're both barriers to my intent and I'm not on board with the reasoning behind erecting those barriers.
Re:Apple Terminated Epic's Developer Account by nottorp on Thursday March 07, 2024 @04:15AM (#39626892)
You missed the "without restrictions" part. You do not need to get the msi approved by Microsoft to distribute it.
Re:Apple Terminated Epic's Developer Account by gopher_space on Friday March 08, 2024 @02:36PM (#39645301)
It's an extra step in the process I only need to do on Windows, and the rationale behind it solely benefits Microsoft.

I'm not comparing Microsoft to Apple, I'm judging both of them against my intentions. Both companies throw up barriers to interfacing with their systems.

Re:Apple Terminated Epic's Developer Account by pompino on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @05:30PM (#39622606)
Not even close. MS is allowing the end user alternate means of installing software. Apple is trying to rob each iOS developer of 30% of their sales.