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Re:Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for goo... by carlosjobim on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @09:13AM (#39603679)
If you use government websites within EU countries, most of them have cookie warnings. And a large part of them also use dark patterns to "forget" that you selected "only necessary" cookies each time you visit.
Re:Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for goo... by ahartmetz on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @09:32AM (#39603928)
"Forgetting" doesn't seem to be common, making the dialog confusing and conducive to "accidentally" allowing everything, that's somewhat common. It would be difficult to prove innocence in the former case.
Re:Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for goo... by try_the_bass on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @09:52AM (#39604156)
I'm pretty sure it's less "dark patterns" and more "remembering your preference isn't 'necessary'".

Which, technically, it isn't.

Re:Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for goo... by throw10920 on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @11:00PM (#39612145)
> I'm pretty sure it's less "dark patterns" and more "remembering your preference isn't 'necessary'".

> Which, technically, it isn't.

That's still a dark pattern, because by definition, dark patterns aren't illegal - just barely legal, and detrimental to the consumer.

Re:Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for goo... by fsflover on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @09:18AM (#39603737)
So what is your conclusion? "It's a bad law"? Government websites breaking GDPR is an important thing to know, in order to fight against it.
Re:Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for goo... by joenot443 on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @09:36AM (#39603980)
I think it's a law with good intentions which was horribly implemented for which now the rest of the world will be feeling the effects for decades.

I think there are very, very few people who are earnestly proud of the work the EU did with this regulation every time they waste finite brain cycles on yet another cookie banner. I don't really know why Europeans use this as an example of their system of governance working as hoped.

Re:Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for goo... by ryandrake on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @11:01AM (#39605270)
It's possible that the EU thought: "This is likely enough to end cookie tracking. Surely no company would want to put their users through horrible consent UX just to retain their tracking!" ...and were wrong about just how far companies would be willing to abuse their user's experience, either because of the benefits of tracking, or purely out of malicious compliance.

The anticipated effect of requiring consent is that by forcing companies to shine a flashlight on their own bad behavior, they will instead choose to correct their behavior. That didn't end up happening in practice.

Re:Facing reality about the EU is a core requirement for goo... by ben_w on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @09:38AM (#39604009)
Much as I like the law, I'm sure I saw a headline when it first went live along the lines of "EU's own website about this law violates it", which suggests[0] that perhaps it could have been done better.

That said, I just looked at it, and this is my idea of a well-made popup: https://gdpr.eu/what-is-gdpr/

[0] But for the Betteridge law of headlines and Gell-Mann amnesia