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Re:Apple unveils the new 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with th... by Longhanks on Monday March 04, 2024 @03:08PM (#39595342)
In my experience, most people looking for "just a notebook" don't care about any of those things. They want a low maintenance, high performant (for day-to-day tasks, not gaming) portable computer with a great battery that runs Chrome, Office and Spotify, and comes with great customer service - nothing comes close to being able to bring your Mac to the next Apple Store.
Re:Apple unveils the new 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with th... by makeitdouble on Monday March 04, 2024 @03:34PM (#39595686)
If I gave these requirements to my parents they'd go to a random computer shop and come back with probably a random 13 or 15 inch DELL. And that's what millions of people get at work as a standard supplied computer.

I am not saying the mac isn't good at filling that niche, just that people who really don't care about computers also don't care if it's a mac, and will probably be fine with any recent default configuration machine from a major maker.

PS: > bring your Mac to the next Apple Store

You need an Apple Store. In my experience people have come to terms with shipping devices and waiting for repairs. Cloud sync helps a lot in that respect, as keeping another computer around has become decently manageable.

Re:Apple unveils the new 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with th... by Klonoar on Monday March 04, 2024 @04:24PM (#39596322)
> If I gave these requirements to my parents they'd go to a random computer shop and come back with probably a random 13 or 15 inch DELL.

And if I did that, they'd also come back with that DELL - and then I'd be stuck doing tech support for them for however long the thing lasts. I cannot begin to count the number of times they've gone and bought some junk computer that they got upsold on.

This is not an experience unique to me, either. The non-Apple laptop segment is (mostly) a broken experience in comparison.

Re:Apple unveils the new 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with th... by sroussey on Monday March 04, 2024 @04:55PM (#39596665)
> And if I did that, they'd also come back with that DELL - and then I'd be stuck doing tech support for them for however long the thing lasts.

I stopped doing tech support for family members using Windows. THAT was the main reason they changed to Mac. And now, hardly do any support for them at all.

Re:Apple unveils the new 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with th... by throwaway118899 on Wednesday March 06, 2024 @05:18AM (#39614356)
The key is to treat Windows users like children and lock it down with an administrator password. You’d be amazed how well Windows holds up over the years if you just prevent them from installing whatever random bullshit they find.
Re:Apple unveils the new 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with th... by zdragnar on Monday March 04, 2024 @03:12PM (#39595384)
You could just get a Chromebook for that and save yourself a ton of money. It's what my wife did, and she's not wanted anything else for seven years.

It isn't close to an apple device in terms of materials or performance, but at a tenth of the cost of a pro it makes a lot of sense.

Re:Apple unveils the new 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with th... by garrickvanburen on Monday March 04, 2024 @03:15PM (#39595421)
Laptops in my household are a mix of Macs and Chromebooks. All are >5yrs old. Love the resilience and useful life of both.
Re:Apple unveils the new 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with th... by eropple on Monday March 04, 2024 @04:34PM (#39596436)
I've had a couple of Chromebooks and enjoyed them, but I never found one with a keyboard that didn't feel terrible to type on. Does one exist today?
Re:Apple unveils the new 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with th... by zdragnar on Monday March 04, 2024 @04:56PM (#39596682)
I'm guessing if you want quality materials, you have to pay for it. I don't know if the pixel line of Chromebooks are still a thing, but even if they are you can just get a higher end laptop with more appropriate levels of local SSD storage and an actual OS for what I remember Google charging for them.
Re:Apple unveils the new 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with th... by eropple on Monday March 04, 2024 @05:26PM (#39596989)
That's why my actual laptops are Thinkpads and Macs, sure--but I can hope, right?
Re:Apple unveils the new 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with th... by lupire on Monday March 04, 2024 @05:07PM (#39596794)
Higher end Chromebooks run Linux well.
Re:Apple unveils the new 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with th... by macinjosh on Monday March 04, 2024 @04:15PM (#39596215)
And in my experience most people looking for "just a notebook" don't want to pay the prices Apple demands. Especially when they see prices on the non-Apple laptops.
Re:Apple unveils the new 13- and 15‑inch MacBook Air with th... by sva_ on Monday March 04, 2024 @03:55PM (#39595949)
> nothing comes close to being able to bring your Mac to the next Apple Store.

Ah really? Ever heard of worldwide on-site next day repair warranty?