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Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by johnnyanmac on Monday March 04, 2024 @01:54PM (#39594381)
>how will they pay $2M?

The same way Bowser did, I suppose. Wage garnishing + whatever Patreon money they earned?

Apparently it's estimated to have made some $1.2 million from patreon so that may help

>why did they settle for that much?

Bad crooked lawyers that said they had no chance or very good lawyers that said they had no chance. IANAL, so I can't truly say which.

> isn't strict emulation legal? Maybe not in the US...

It is AFAIK, apparently the judgement's big argument here is

>Developing or distributing software, including Yuzu, that in its ordinary course functions only when cryptographic keys are integrated without authorization, violates the Digital Millennium Copyright Act’s prohibition on trafficking in devices that circumvent effective technological measures, because the software is primarily designed for the purpose of circumventing technological measures.

Again, I don't know how much water that holds.

>is there something fishy that was hidden somewhere?

Depends on if you think whether or not it would have cost more than $2.5m dollars to fight nintendo in a full battle. I imagine Yuzu doesn't have such funds nor means to. So this was the cheapest option for them.

Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by 1231232131231 on Monday March 04, 2024 @02:42PM (#39595005)
Another case of Nintendo ruining peoples' lives [1]

[1]: https://www.theguardian.com/games/2024/feb/01/the-man-who-ow...

Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by theshackleford on Monday March 04, 2024 @02:56PM (#39595192)
Seems to me more like he ruined his own life through poor choices. Actions have consequences, I won’t be shedding any tears.
Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by mcpar-land on Monday March 04, 2024 @03:22PM (#39595536)
> As a part of that agreement, Bowser now has to send Nintendo 20-30% of any money left over after he pays for necessities such as rent.

> Bowser has now managed to secure housing, and he thinks that after rent, he has a couple of hundred dollars leftover for food and other necessities. He assumes he’ll be turning to food support services.

Nintendo's not being compensated any meaningful amount. This is nothing more than a lifelong public flogging. And for what?

Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by indy on Monday March 04, 2024 @03:34PM (#39595680)
"and for what?", the what is to send a message to everyone not to screw around with Nintendo. Whether that's morally right is another question.
Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by theshackleford on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @02:10AM (#39600272)
Why are you pretending Nintendo is the justice system? Are you confused by how the legal system works?
Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by indy on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @03:03AM (#39600564)
I'm not pretending that Nintendo is the justice system, although I will admit that the US legal system does confuse me!

The point was that if you have deeper pockets than your opponent then you're able to leverage the legal system to make life hard and stressful for them.

Nintendo has deep pockets and the will to go after anyone it considers a threat to its business model.

Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by throwaway48r7r on Monday March 04, 2024 @03:01PM (#39595243)
Won't somebody think of the multinationals.
Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by flykespice on Monday March 04, 2024 @05:46PM (#39597181)
Nobody is thinking about the multinationals, they are thinking about what is morally correct.
Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by hyperhopper on Monday March 04, 2024 @07:45PM (#39598083)
Morally, these multinational corporations deserve piracy or any bad thing that happens to them.
Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by autoexec on Monday March 04, 2024 @10:16PM (#39599064)
Nintendo gave up on doing what was "morally correct" ages ago. That doesn't make anyone else's moral failing acceptable, but comparatively Nintendo's sins are far greater and they've never faced consequences that came remotely close to what they're putting Gary Bowser through.
Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by colinsane on Monday March 04, 2024 @11:54PM (#39599588)
more people need to just read the "history" section of Nintendo's Wikipedia page. because that "ages ago" is 140 years ago, when the company was founded, by being the only {morally,legally} bankrupt enough people willing to sell their wares to Yakuza-run casinos.

to be fair, they're not unique in this space. but the perception of them as "the family-friendly gaming company" has always been some very big amount of nonsense.

Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by theshackleford on Tuesday March 05, 2024 @04:08PM (#39609174)
> and they've never faced consequences that came remotely close to what they're putting Gary Bowser through.

His own actions and the legal system are why he is where he is today. Nintendo isn’t putting him anything, unless you now think that Nintendo controls legal decisions that are handed down.

Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by ascagnel_ on Monday March 04, 2024 @04:24PM (#39596326)
> Developing or distributing software, including Yuzu, that in its ordinary course functions only when cryptographic keys are integrated without authorization, violates the Digital Millennium Copyright Act’s prohibition on trafficking in devices that circumvent effective technological measures, because the software is primarily designed for the purpose of circumventing technological measures.

This seems like a massive stretch to ask a judge to sign off on, since it pretty radically expands what the DMCA covers. If were to come into force, you could slap some encryption on any piece of software and block anyone from interoperating with it.

Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by thesnide on Monday March 04, 2024 @02:01PM (#39594474)
I guess the fishy thing was the Patreon, which I was not aware of.

Hell, I just even knew about Yuzu because of that lawsuit. #streisand

Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by kevingadd on Monday March 04, 2024 @02:18PM (#39594698)
The relevant precedent is Bleem, which was for-profit
Re:Yuzu emulator developers settle Nintendo lawsuit, pay $2.... by Narishma on Monday March 04, 2024 @06:20PM (#39597500)
It's not really a precedent since PS1 games weren't encrypted.