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Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by pastacacioepepe on Monday March 04, 2024 @03:10AM (#39588119)
China is a socialist democracy. How did you get the impression that it's an authoritarian country?

I mean, China does not

- have the highest incarcerated population in the world

- have the most militarized police force in the world

- have waged any war in the past 45 years

Those are usualy three great signs of authoritarianism.

Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by samus on Monday March 04, 2024 @04:06AM (#39588412)
None of these criteria qualify. Try again.
Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by pastacacioepepe on Monday March 04, 2024 @04:22AM (#39588506)
How about limited political pluralism?

How is a two party system where both parties are firmly pro-capitalism any different from a single party system with internal political currents?

Wanna talk about how prominent is the role of intelligence services and how much power do they have compared to the elected political representatives?

Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by samus on Monday March 04, 2024 @04:50AM (#39588651)
That's a better argument :) I'd also like to add that prisoners in the USA lose their voting rights. However, the argument was initially about Taiwan, not about the USA.
Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by throwaway2990 on Monday March 04, 2024 @05:10AM (#39588757)
China has 18 border disputes and has been encroaching on India. Don’t try make the claim it hasn’t waged war when it is.

It also enslaves an entire ethnic group. Highest executions. Almost 100% conviction rate. Has undercover police operations all around the world pretending to be Chinese cultural or help centers for Chinese people.

Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by pastacacioepepe on Monday March 04, 2024 @06:09AM (#39589073)
> China has 18 border disputes and has been encroaching on India. Don’t try make the claim it hasn’t waged war when it is.

China hasn't engaged in any war in the past 45 years, this is a fact you can easily verify on your own, whether you like it or not.

> It also enslaves an entire ethnic group. Highest executions. Almost 100% conviction rate.

Dubious claims from biased sources. In any case the US incarcerates 6x more black people than white, accounting for population amounts, and also forces them to labor for private companies.

> Has undercover police operations all around the world pretending to be Chinese cultural or help centers for Chinese people.

Say hello to the NSA and CIA, there's a good chance one of their employees or algorithms will stumble upon this thread at some point.

Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by throwaway2990 on Monday March 04, 2024 @06:18AM (#39589128)
> a state of usually open and declared armed hostile conflict between states or nations

Based on the definition of war. China has engaged in war multiple times. And is actively in no less than 18 border disputes with conflicts with Philippines and India.

Take your CPC boot licking elsewhere.

Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by sandspar on Monday March 04, 2024 @08:54AM (#39590505)
He told the truth.
Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by smoldesu on Monday March 04, 2024 @04:23PM (#39596315)
They also didn't refute anything the parent said. "Dubious claims from biased sources" isn't denying that Uighur exploitation happens, it's a strawman that diverts the criticism to the media. Same goes for the CIA/NSA comment and incarceration statistics - they seem to be under the impression that other countries taking nuanced action excuses nuclear-option behavior from a one-party state.

Suffice to say that if the United States is deserving of criticism, then China's actions are due double the scrutiny. As an American citizen, I take no issue holding both countries accountable.

Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by tz18 on Monday March 04, 2024 @08:29AM (#39590212)
what are you gonna spend your 50 cents on?
Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by sandspar on Monday March 04, 2024 @08:54AM (#39590498)
Your paranoia is clouding your judgement. He told the truth and you are unable to recognize it due to your paranoia.
Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by pastacacioepepe on Monday March 04, 2024 @08:59AM (#39590555)
> China has 18 border disputes and has been encroaching on India. Don’t try make the claim it hasn’t waged war when it is. China hasn't engaged in any war in the past 45 years, this is a fact you can easily verify on your own, whether you like it or not.

> It also enslaves an entire ethnic group. Highest executions. Almost 100% conviction rate.

Dubious claims from biased sources. In any case the US incarcerates 6x more black people than white, accounting for population amounts, and also forces them to labor for private companies.

> Has undercover police operations all around the world pretending to be Chinese cultural or help centers for Chinese people.

Say hello to the NSA and CIA, there's a good chance one of their employees or algorithms will stumble upon this thread at some point.

Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by smoldesu on Monday March 04, 2024 @01:33PM (#39594093)
> Dubious claims from biased sources.

What makes the Human Rights Watch a dubious source, in your opinion? Who should we trust instead?

https://www.hrw.org/tag/uyghurs

> there's a good chance one of their employees or algorithms will stumble upon this thread at some point.

There's a good chance Chinese intelligence finds this thread, too. That's not a response to the parent's accusation of Chinese undercover police stations that terrorize cities the world over.

Re:US permanently deploys training mission in Taiwan by matthewfelgate on Monday March 04, 2024 @05:14AM (#39588787)
Literally wrong on every point.