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Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks by nonrandomstring on Saturday March 02, 2024 @10:47AM (#39573308)
Given the appalling record of Cisco products for backdoors [0], and the allegation that Cisco willingly installed backdoors [1] on the orders of an agency known for espionage against the German government [2], is it a surprise that the Russians found a key under the flower-pot?

[0] https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cisco-backdoor-hardcoded-a...

[1] https://www.infoworld.com/article/2608141/snowden--the-nsa-p...

[2] https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/cover-story-how...

Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks by _kb on Saturday March 02, 2024 @11:15AM (#39573502)
I hold the wider Cisco org with as much contempt as any non-MBA technologist, but to be fair, the WebEx team appear to be doing some interesting things with zero trust [0], MLS [1], and watermarking [2].

A lot of mass market / SaaS comms tools are abysmal at best on the security front but it's nice to at least see some semblance of effort on a few layers of controls.

[0]: https://www.webex.com/content/dam/wbx/us/documents/pdf/Zero_...

[1]: https://messaginglayersecurity.rocks/

[2]: https://blog.webex.com/hybrid-work/webex-audio-watermarking/

Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks by LightFog on Saturday March 02, 2024 @12:08PM (#39573916)
Seems unlikely related to the Webex platform itself - either a device or account breach or network if they were silly enough not to use the E2E encryption feature.
Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks by jimkoen on Saturday March 02, 2024 @02:21PM (#39575065)
There is a bunch of speculation on German reddit as to what caused the leak. An interesting theory includes a Bluetooth headset getting hacked.
Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks by LightFog on Saturday March 02, 2024 @02:59PM (#39575316)
That would make a lot of sense given the absolute crapware that comes with them.
Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks by baxtr on Saturday March 02, 2024 @04:28PM (#39575930)
Could you kindly share a link?
Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks by rasz on Sunday March 03, 2024 @12:11AM (#39578587)
I heard "dialed into the Webex call from Singapore over an unsecure phone line" one.
Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks by r0ckarong on Saturday March 02, 2024 @11:25AM (#39573574)
And that's what happens if you demilitarize and then put all your cards on consulting companies. I wanna see the KPMG, McKinsey battalion defending the Eastern border against a Russian invasion.
Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks by VK538FY on Sunday March 03, 2024 @04:52AM (#39579755)
Well aware that the big consulting firms work closely with western governments on certain subjects (public health, economy) but if they are providing military advice, that's news to me.
Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks by r0ckarong on Sunday March 03, 2024 @12:40PM (#39582491)
https://kpmg.com/de/de/home/themen/2024/02/modernisierung-de...

https://consultingstar.com/nachrichten/21410

Sorry for German but that's what I turned up on the first try. At least the Bundeswehr is dumping a lot of money into these companies.

Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks by VK538FY on Sunday March 03, 2024 @04:14PM (#39584604)
Don't be sorry, that's interesting stuff. I stand corrected.
Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks by tut-urut-utut on Sunday March 03, 2024 @09:34AM (#39581056)
Me too. These guys are a net loss for the humanity at large. No one would miss them.