Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks
by nonrandomstring on Saturday March 02, 2024 @10:47AM
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Given the appalling record of Cisco products for backdoors [0], and the
allegation that Cisco willingly installed backdoors [1] on the orders
of an agency known for espionage against the German government [2], is
it a surprise that the Russians found a key under the flower-pot?
Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks
by _kb on Saturday March 02, 2024 @11:15AM
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I hold the wider Cisco org with as much contempt as any non-MBA technologist, but to be fair, the WebEx team appear to be doing some interesting things with zero trust [0], MLS [1], and watermarking [2].
A lot of mass market / SaaS comms tools are abysmal at best on the security front but it's nice to at least see some semblance of effort on a few layers of controls.
Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks
by LightFog on Saturday March 02, 2024 @12:08PM
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Seems unlikely related to the Webex platform itself - either a device or account breach or network if they were silly enough not to use the E2E encryption feature.
Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks
by r0ckarong on Saturday March 02, 2024 @11:25AM
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And that's what happens if you demilitarize and then put all your cards on consulting companies. I wanna see the KPMG, McKinsey battalion defending the Eastern border against a Russian invasion.
Re:German Military Using WebEx for Secret Talks
by VK538FY on Sunday March 03, 2024 @04:52AM
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Well aware that the big consulting firms work closely with western governments on certain subjects (public health, economy) but if they are providing military advice, that's news to me.
[0] https://www.tomshardware.com/news/cisco-backdoor-hardcoded-a...
[1] https://www.infoworld.com/article/2608141/snowden--the-nsa-p...
[2] https://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/cover-story-how...
A lot of mass market / SaaS comms tools are abysmal at best on the security front but it's nice to at least see some semblance of effort on a few layers of controls.
[0]: https://www.webex.com/content/dam/wbx/us/documents/pdf/Zero_...
[1]: https://messaginglayersecurity.rocks/
[2]: https://blog.webex.com/hybrid-work/webex-audio-watermarking/
https://consultingstar.com/nachrichten/21410
Sorry for German but that's what I turned up on the first try. At least the Bundeswehr is dumping a lot of money into these companies.