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Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by marssaxman on Friday March 01, 2024 @09:33PM (#39569282)
When I'm on a motorcycle, I assume they are never seeing me - but it's still useful to see them, and I can often tell what they are about to do before they've started doing it. I have not yet had the chance to share the road with a robot, but I wonder whether that feeling for traffic will still work.
Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by rukuu001 on Friday March 01, 2024 @11:27PM (#39569793)
Yeh, the only time I assume a driver has really seen me is when we make eye contact.

(But - twice in 20 years I’ve had the chilling experience of a driver making eye contact and pulling out in front of me anyway.)

Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by guenthert on Saturday March 02, 2024 @03:59AM (#39571166)
I don't think that's actually all that uncommon. I'll give them the benefit of doubt and assume that they habitually turn to look, but don't actually see or that they grossly misjudge your speed.

That was more of a problem in my 'Sturm & Drang' time. These days grannys on their electically-assisted bicycles are faster than me, hence I don't surprise car drivers any more.

Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by cj on Friday March 01, 2024 @09:42PM (#39569329)
Agreed.

It would be nice if there were a simple directional light on the top of robotaxis that indicates where it’s intending to go next (directional light) and how imminently it will begin moving (perhaps how fast the light blinks) when e.g. at a stop sign.

Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by Rapzid on Saturday March 02, 2024 @03:59AM (#39571163)
The motorcycle safety courses teaches NOT to assume a driver sees or will yield the right away because of "eye contact".