California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF Peninsula [pdf]

Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by hn_throwaway_99 on Friday March 01, 2024 @07:16PM (#39568500)

I hate the comparisons to Europe, because they're apples to oranges. I've been in European cities and I totally agree, it's a joy to be able to take public transit and/or walk everywhere. But most European cities were built long before the car.

Older US cities (Boston, NY) have great public transit/walking options, though I agree deferred maintenance is taking its toll. But if you look at cities designed around the car, for many of them it's just prohibitively expensive to add things like light rail or subways now. Austin TX will be adding more light rail, but the price tag keeps exploding and the route keeps getting shorter.

I'd be curious if anyone could point to any city that was built around the car where they subsequently made substantial public transit improvements that carry more than, say, 10% of commuters.

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Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by BadHumans on Friday March 01, 2024 @07:22PM (#39568555)

Amsterdam and Paris used to be both be very car dependent. Here is a video about Amsterdam before they shunned cars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI5pbDFDZyI

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Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by coalteddy on Saturday March 02, 2024 @11:43AM (#39573711)

US cities love their cars. Not even in city centers do they prioritize pedestrians over cars. That has nothing to do with apples or oranges. It's a priority thing and not costs. There is no reason to need cars in city centers. Makes cities ugly, loud and dangerous compared to europe or asia.

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