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Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by konschubert on Friday March 01, 2024 @07:10PM (#39568449)
As a biker, I feel MICH safer around self driving cars because I know they are paying attention.

I don’t need to check if they see me. They do.

Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by candiddevmike on Friday March 01, 2024 @07:52PM (#39568759)
Seeing a bike and recognizing a bike are two different things with self driving cars. I like OP's idea of having a visual cue that it recognized a bike.
Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by somethoughts on Friday March 01, 2024 @08:26PM (#39568928)
Going forward - I think it's important to not just categorically say all self driving cars are safer than human drivers. It's probably better to say I feel safer around Waymo and <insert other trusted company> self driving cars.

With such complexity and unknowns within the codebase - there is likely going to be a much higher amount of variability w.r.t. safety and AI decision making. I'm not so sure I'd categorically say a self driving car from say Nikola or some SPAC'd startup would make me feel all that safe.

Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by amelius on Saturday March 02, 2024 @11:45AM (#39573726)
"I feel so safe around commit 07cc283a8344 of the Waymo software."
Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by SoftTalker on Friday March 01, 2024 @09:36PM (#39569297)
That's the exact opposite assumption I'd make. As a biker, a pedestrian, or a driver.
Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by iancmceachern on Friday March 01, 2024 @10:00PM (#39569427)
I'm the exact opposite. I've had a couple incidents that make me not trust them.

(Weird this was down voted, just sharing personal experiences)

Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by dataflow on Friday March 01, 2024 @10:07PM (#39569450)
With Waymo? Or others?
Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by iancmceachern on Friday March 01, 2024 @10:34PM (#39569565)
Waymo and Cruise.

I live right near Oracle Park where there was a big Cruise Yard, and there is a ton of traffic and cruise, zoox, etc self driving cars circling the neighborhood endlessly.

It's not as if I've had a overtly terrible single incident. It's as though they're causing unsafe driving conditions for pedestrians, cyclists and other motorists regularly.

Driving unreasonably slow and erratic, stopping in the middle of streets, blocking traffic, not responding to the need for them to move or respond as human driver would.

They're problematic. I could start a youtube channel or something it happens enough in my day to day life.

Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by acchow on Saturday March 02, 2024 @12:50AM (#39570171)
All of your descriptions perfectly match my experiences with Cruise but not at all my experiences with Waymo.

I bike by Oracle park almost every day.

Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by emptysongglass on Saturday March 02, 2024 @01:40AM (#39570413)
Because you didn't share why. Also, please don't complain about downvotes, it's in the HN guidelines.
Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by jeffrallen on Saturday March 02, 2024 @08:32AM (#39572405)
> they do

Until you're being dragged under them.