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Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by kriiuuu on Friday March 01, 2024 @06:35PM (#39568145)
Show me indenpendant research that they are safer. I can’t find any.
Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by Aloisius on Friday March 01, 2024 @06:49PM (#39568261)
If they were less safe than human drivers, one would there would be more accidents where Waymo was at fault than another party.

Having personally gone through several years of AV collisions reports to California a few months back, that wasn't the case. Indeed, in most of the small number of cases where Waymo was at fault, there was human driver in control of the vehicle.

The were a four cases where the Waymo was at fault. One hit a chain strung across parking lot. There was a minor collision with a parked car. One ran over and killed a dog. One hit a vehicle while trying to reverse.

There were dozens where the other party was at fault (lots of rear ends).

Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by subarctic on Friday March 01, 2024 @07:17PM (#39568513)
Now that you put it that way, it's probably tough to get in an accident with a waymo without being found at fault. How often does a car stop suddenly and unexpectedly, get rear ended, and get found at fault?
Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by Aloisius on Friday March 01, 2024 @08:12PM (#39568859)
Never. If you rear end someone because you were following too closely to stop without hitting them, you're at fault. There's a reason why the three second rule is taught.

There are some rare exceptions like if someone's tail lights are out, but nothing that would apply here.

Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by pkaye on Friday March 01, 2024 @06:54PM (#39568300)
Waymo worked with Swiss Re a reinsurer to evaluate the data. I think they have a paper that is going through peer review.

https://waymo.com/blog/2023/09/waymos-autonomous-vehicles-ar...

Re:California Approves Waymo Expansion to Los Angeles and SF... by ilaksh on Friday March 01, 2024 @06:59PM (#39568341)
They have been submitting data to the DMV for some time. Do you believe they are falsifying their data?