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Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by abfan1127 on Friday March 01, 2024 @11:18AM (#39563230)
if you're not profitable, there should be no tax advantage, right?
Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by hx8 on Friday March 01, 2024 @11:29AM (#39563376)
OpenAI was a 501C3. This meant donors could give money to it and receive tax benefits. The advantage is in the unique way it can reduce the funders tax bill.
Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by somedude895 on Friday March 01, 2024 @11:35AM (#39563440)
A donation is a no strings attached thing, so these donors basically funded a startup without getting any shares?
Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by michaelt on Friday March 01, 2024 @11:46AM (#39563592)
Donations are not entirely without strings. In theory (and usually in practice) a charity has to work towards its charitable goals; if you donate to the local animal shelter whose charitable goal is to look after dogs, they have to spend your donation on things like dog food and vet costs.

Charities have reasonably broad latitude though (a non-profit college can operate a football team and pay the coach $$$$$) and if you're nervous about donating you can always turn a lump sum donation into a 10%-per-year-for-10-years donation if you feel closer monitoring is needed.

Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by lolinder on Friday March 01, 2024 @11:40AM (#39563510)
Officially, yes, but the whole situation with Altman's firing and rehiring showed that the donors can exert quite a bit of control if their interests are threatened.
Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by jprete on Friday March 01, 2024 @12:56PM (#39564543)
That wasn't the donors' doing at all, though. If anything it was an illustration of the powerlessness of the donors and the non-profit structure without the force of law backing it up.
Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by lolinder on Friday March 01, 2024 @12:57PM (#39564566)
Microsoft is the single largest donor by a wide margin, and they were absolutely pulling the strings in that incident.
Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by jprete on Friday March 01, 2024 @01:07PM (#39564711)
Did they donate, or did they buy equity in the for-profit arm? I thought it was the latter, and that Azure credits were part of that deal?
Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by hackerfoo on Friday March 01, 2024 @11:44AM (#39563557)
Unless the donors were already owners.
Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by Aloisius on Friday March 01, 2024 @12:29PM (#39564190)
Donors can't be owners. Nonprofits don't have shareholders.
Re:Musk sues Altman seeking a return to open source and non-... by mistrial9 on Friday March 01, 2024 @11:25AM (#39563316)
no that is not the test for nonprofit status