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Re:Docusign just admitted that they use customer data to tra... by initplus on Thursday February 29, 2024 @11:58PM (#39558668)
The obvious angle is AI contract generation. Docusign are uniquely positioned to build up a real training set of contracts.
Re:Docusign just admitted that they use customer data to tra... by SteveNuts on Friday March 01, 2024 @12:08AM (#39558713)
Going to be absolutely wild the first time it spits out a specific enough paragraph to identify the company whose data was used to train the model.
Re:Docusign just admitted that they use customer data to tra... by anon373839 on Friday March 01, 2024 @12:37AM (#39558879)
Or spits out the terms of someone's confidential settlement agreement.
Re:Docusign just admitted that they use customer data to tra... by ironmagma on Friday March 01, 2024 @12:53AM (#39558956)
If they're uniquely positioned to do it, it probably doesn't need to be done. Who is going to usurp them if they don't?
Re:Docusign just admitted that they use customer data to tra... by adamisom on Friday March 01, 2024 @01:57AM (#39559288)
I find this comment interesting in the context of having read a lot of brain-dead takes on "capitalism", some of which it liken it to feudalism.

I find it interesting because it shows how different those two are.

Under feudal zero-sum world your question would make complete sense, but under a capitalist positive-sum world, it seems to me the answer is just "a lot of profit would be left on the table" (ie positive-sum mutual-benefit transactions), which explains why docusign would do it.

Re:Docusign just admitted that they use customer data to tra... by ironmagma on Friday March 01, 2024 @11:22AM (#39563269)
I think a lot of danger can come from competing against imaginary forces. You get things like atom bombs and paranoia.
Re:Docusign just admitted that they use customer data to tra... by zubspace on Friday March 01, 2024 @02:50AM (#39559586)
Yes, and extending existing contracts based on new requirements.

But also contract validation, like check if something missing or finding loopholes. If they are sneaky, they could sell that information to lawyers, who can definitely make use of it.

I'm not inherently pro-AI, but there are indeed valid and interesting use cases for such models, if the data can be anonymized correctly. And I'm not sure if it makes sense to single out DocuSign, because there are probably many companies which train their models on similar data.