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Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by kookamamie on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @12:13AM (#39534258)
Do note that, due to NVidia's absurd EULAs, you cannot run RTX 3090 in a data-center for compute purposes (https://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownloads/licence.php?l...).

Should you care about the EULA? Not really, until you're a business of any significant scale.

Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by echelon on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @04:18AM (#39535742)
If you update your drivers. You could use an older license.
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by hkgirjenk on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @05:08AM (#39536051)
Nvidia is known to retaliate (delaying future shipments) if you do stuff like this.
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by PrayagBhakar on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @01:21PM (#39541785)
I run a basement compute server[^1], what’s Nvidia gonna do? Not let me buy their hella expensive H100s? At least now I get to learn ML skills without my failed experiments exponentially scaling on the cloud.

[^1]: https://prayag.bhakar.org/apollo-ai-compute-cluster-for-the-...

Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by gnabgib on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @09:48PM (#39533321)
Unorthodox machines, and possibly not a load-bearing site, but luckily it's in an archive: https://archive.is/fARR4
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by fbdab103 on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @11:32PM (#39534031)
Hopefully not hosted on Netlify.
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by verditelabs on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @10:48PM (#39533740)
I think I recognize the author of this from /r/localllama, where plenty of other people are building similar frankenstein rigs. This post only mentions Intel setups, but AMD Epyc Milan and Rome based rigs are also very viable alternatives. They're a bit more expensive, but much better perf/watt, and the incremental price increase after factoring in a lot of GPUs is fairly slim. With 7 PCIE bifurcators on a motherboard such as the AsRock ROMED8-2T and a 14 risers, you can get up to 14 GPUs at PCIE 4.0x8.
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by 3abiton on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @06:43AM (#39536639)
A bit sad hobbyist have to resort to such measures to get tinkering, not to mention the initial capital needed. We're all slaves to Nvidia's VRAM monopoly until AMD or Intel steps in and release a competitive alternative with beefy vrams.
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by loudmax on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @09:03AM (#39538038)
Beefy VRAM is a start, but Nvidia's real moat is CUDA. If PyTorch runs on AMD's ROCm, or the Intel equivalent, as well as it runs on CUDA, then we'll see some real competition here.

Chris Lattner's Mojo programming language may present an alternative here, but it's still closed source.

Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by 3abiton on Thursday February 29, 2024 @04:02AM (#39547670)
How will Mojo solve what is essentially a GPU driver issue (ROCm vs cuda)? AMD's track at supporting GPU computing is very poor to be trusted so far.
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by brucethemoose2 on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @01:05AM (#39534603)
Its insane that a 2020 gaming GPU is such a niche for deep learning. Thats ancient history in the world of graphics, and its only that way because the market is straight up anticompetitive (and AMD is too dense to break out of it with a 48GB consumer card).
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by hackerlight on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @01:39AM (#39534789)
48GB consumer card won't change much if people are already passing over the much cheaper AMD 7900XTX that has 24GB. Nvidia is winning because of the perceived CUDA to ROCm gap, that's all it comes down to. (and they're winning in the consumer space because of the DLSS and FSR gap)
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by brucethemoose2 on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @06:05PM (#39544667)
I passed over the 7900 XTX because its not worth the trouble over a 3090.

That calculus totally changes with 48GB. I would put up with A LOT of trouble for that.

Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by HPsquared on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @08:49AM (#39537846)
And that it was considered highly overpriced at the time (for gaming) but now seen as a bargain choice.
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by alwayslikethis on Thursday February 29, 2024 @10:00AM (#39550181)
It wasn't available at MSRP for a long time because of its mining performance. The price dropped a lot since ETH went PoS and the cheaper lower end 40 series are nearly as fast in gaming.
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by shikon7 on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @04:28PM (#39543645)
The RTX 3090 is still one of the best gaming/consumer GPUs, beat only by the 4080 and 4090. And the 5000 series might still be almost a year away.
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by rangestransform on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @06:32PM (#39544872)
it's not anticompetitive, amd was just too late to the GPU compute punch and was deservingly punished by the market for it. Near-unlimited upside for world-changing technology is a positive part of the system IMO
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by johnklos on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @02:37AM (#39535123)
Maybe they should build an unorthodox web server, which these days seems to be one that's self hosted, instead of trying to use a weak Digitalocean instance.

I bet the machine mentioned in the article could host this site, even with Xeons, with two orders of magnitude more traffic before being able to register the load.

Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by nmfisher on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @05:16AM (#39536111)
Website just gives me "Error establishing a database connection".

(Did he achieve AGI internally?)

Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by siwakotisaurav on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @05:18AM (#39536126)
HN hug of death
Re:Building Unorthodox Deep Learning GPU Machines by Weryj on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @07:31AM (#39537028)
My unorthodox contribution is an Intel Optane drive as a swap drive to give my CPU only box 96GB of ram to work with.