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Re:Apple cancels work on electric car, shifts team to genera... by chx on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @03:07PM (#39529075)
Really? really?

you think when the iPhone came out the space was not crowded? You think they defined the category? Jobs himself have put up a number of smartphones in his 2007 presentation. Yes, the iPhone was far, very far better but it was definitely not a first.

Same thing with the iPod vs Diamond Rio MP3 layers.

As for the Watch, gosh, I do not even know where to start. Pebble Kickstarter two years before that? Two generations of the Samsung Galaxy Gear came out well before the Apple Watch.

Re:Apple cancels work on electric car, shifts team to genera... by paxys on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @03:10PM (#39529114)
Look at a picture of what the top 10 smartphones looked like the day before iPhone launched and then again a few years later. That is what category defining means.

They didn't take whatever was out there in the market and copy it/make it incrementally better. They started from scratch and built something drastically different and better than the rest. Same for iPod (yes there were plenty of cheap MP3 players out there, but none of them were comparable), Airpods and all the rest.

Re:Apple cancels work on electric car, shifts team to genera... by Gigachad on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @04:26PM (#39530208)
The Apple watch was only incrementally better than the existing options. The original one was probably worse than the Pebble in some aspects.
Re:Apple cancels work on electric car, shifts team to genera... by xcv123 on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @03:11PM (#39529135)
> the iPhone was far, very far better

It wasn't that far ahead when it first launched. Very basic functionality. But a few versions later it was the end of Nokia and Blackberry.

https://www.mobilegazette.com/2007-review-07x12x12.htm

"No handset polarised opinions during 2007 more than the Apple iPhone. Although it has many good points, the list of bad points is equally impressive. The iPhone lacks 3G, the camera is only two megapixels and lacks autofocus and flash, you cannot send MMS messages, third party applications are not allowed, the battery is not replaceable and it is absurdly expensive."

Re:Apple cancels work on electric car, shifts team to genera... by Retr0id on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @03:21PM (#39529280)
People seem to forget that on launch, the iPhone was basically a feature phone.
Re:Apple cancels work on electric car, shifts team to genera... by xcv123 on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @03:36PM (#39529516)
I owned a Blackberry in 2007 and thought the new iPhone was trash.