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Re:Boeing missing key elements of safety culture: FAA report by hinkley on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @11:02AM (#39525657)
When a punishment is applied with more deliberation, it can also be more severe.
Re:Boeing missing key elements of safety culture: FAA report by wolverine876 on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @04:05PM (#39529932)
Why is severity desirable? Or if it's not desirable, so what?
Re:Boeing missing key elements of safety culture: FAA report by sokoloff on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @04:43PM (#39530436)
Severity is desirable iff it's justified. I wouldn't ever sign off on a policy that says "you'll be fired for a single mistake" (that would be a severity of punishment out of proportion to the risk/underperformance).

But a policy that never provided for the possibility of termination (insufficient maximum severity) is also not desirable.

Re:Boeing missing key elements of safety culture: FAA report by wolverine876 on Tuesday February 27, 2024 @04:48PM (#39530509)
> Severity is desirable iff it's justified.

It's necessary if it's (necessary & efficient & justified); it's never desirable IMHO.

Doing severe things because they are justified is just acting out on a desire or drive - internal anger - but now we can 'justify' the target and feel ok about it. Lynch mobs think they are justified.

Re:Boeing missing key elements of safety culture: FAA report by sokoloff on Wednesday February 28, 2024 @09:03AM (#39538042)
Designing severe things to be included as part of a process is a desirable property of that system if the severe thing is sometimes required.

No one is designing a formal system that includes lunch mobs. But a formal system of repercussions for employee behavior that does not include firing is an incomplete system.

It’s not that firing itself is ever desirable, but rather that its inclusion in a disciplinary progression is desirable.