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Re:Punk is dead and so are we by watwut on Monday February 26, 2024 @11:48AM (#39513533)
> There is nother more counter to the cultural moment then being a traditionally moral, upright citizen who doesnt do drugs, doesnt lie, cheat, steal, has their libido under control, is reliable, whose existence is profitable to the rest of the world (not neccessarily economically, just mean someone who contributes more than they take : financially, emotionally, etc)

The drug use is going down, alcoholism is going down, violent crime is going down, there was mini-panique just yesterday on HN over young people having less sex ...

Re:Punk is dead and so are we by zozbot234 on Monday February 26, 2024 @11:58AM (#39513694)
That's because the drugs and sex are getting replaced across modern culture by p0rn and video games. It's not a sign of spiritual growth, the young people of today's mainstream West are still mired in pointless craving and desire. Conservative religious communities offer a way out of that predicament.

BTW the "conservative" part is not, strictly speaking, required but if you object to that I don't think you would like the "e/acc" variety of spirituality either. This is powerful stuff, and it makes 100% sense to have some "traditional" safeguards within it.

Re:Punk is dead and so are we by ishopatbakers on Monday February 26, 2024 @12:24PM (#39514055)
> That's because the drugs and sex are getting replaced across modern culture by p0rn and video games.

This rings very true, look at kids not driving.

Re:Punk is dead and so are we by watwut on Monday February 26, 2024 @12:12PM (#39513888)
Well, OP defined it as "doesnt do drugs, doesnt lie, cheat, steal, has their libido under control, is reliable, whose existence is profitable to the rest of the world". Porn and video games are not in those categories.

> Conservative religious communities offer a way out of that predicament.

They play video games. Also, per all available stats they do use porn.