All churches are full of sinners just like hospitals are full of sick people.

You're there to get well.

The difference is that doctors and nurses are certified and policed.

Pastors are as well. Just differently.

Each church has a board of elders who will hire/fire/correct/counsel the pastors. At most protestant churches at least. I can't speak for all churches.

I've seen a board of elders remove a megachurch founding pastor. They take their positions seriously.

I have more faith in the Protestant and Baptist, more decentralized methods. Catholic monoliths, less so.

I can understand that.

American evangelist preachers are notorious tax-evaders. Just sayin'.

Beats the other sort of thing religious leaders can get up to.

Well, I'm not. But it's a good point, one that hopefully everyone there agrees on in mind and heart.

you are misunderstanding me - I am saying the act of being traditionally conservative - that is embodying the traditionally conservative values of not lying cheating etc - that is counter-cultural. "conservative communities" do not necessarily embody "traditionally conservative values".