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Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by davelpz on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @01:47PM (#39457789)
What point are you trying to make?
Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by mozempthrowaway on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @01:50PM (#39457827)
I think the point is that is the number Mitchell jacked her salary up to while presiding over FF’s demise.
Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by unethical_ban on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @01:52PM (#39457863)
Do not post inflammatory comments without elaboration or context. Your comment should not be a puzzle that the reader should have to solve.
Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by anotherhue on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @02:28PM (#39458323)
If that comment is inflammatory for you then I suggest you recalibrate.
Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by unethical_ban on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @03:03PM (#39458765)
Edit

Why respond to this and not the other people asking what you're talking about?

My point is your post is highly opinionated, tangential to the posted topic (without explanation) and needlessly without context.

It would have been quite easy to say

"I think paying $6.5M in management last year[0] was actively harmful to Firefox's market position

[0] source"

One need not be a chronic HN comment reader to understand this version.

Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by squigz on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @01:45PM (#39457763)
Why are you sharing this on this post?
Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by mozempthrowaway on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @01:54PM (#39457879)
I think it’s a reminder of what Mitchell’s priorities were as CEO: lining her pockets and funneling money to her political projects.

She has deep ties at Google and after getting out of the Yahoo deal when Verizon bought them, she got a sweetheart deal from Google that was an 84% increase of revenue YoY. She then laid off 25% of the company that year. This last year she ran a budget surplus as she failed to hire as aggressively as we had planned to at the beginning of last year and she still cut 6% of the company (for reference we were behind more than 60 hires for the year which is the amount that was cut). Meanwhile she took a pay increase to 6.9M

Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by nozzlegear on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @02:24PM (#39458280)
Has she said anywhere that those were her priorities, or is that just conjecture? People on HN seem to forget that she was the CEO of Mozilla, not Firefox LLC, and Mozilla’s goals have long been broader than just providing life support to a browser that continues to grow more irrelevant every year.
Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by mozempthrowaway on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @03:54PM (#39459414)
I work at Mozilla, there is no Firefox LLC. Please don’t post stuff like this if you’re unfamiliar with the corporate structure.

There is Mozilla Corporation a for profit entity that is responsible for virtually all development of products under the Mozilla name. Then there is Mozilla Foundation, a non-profit that is the sole owner of Mozilla Corporation. Mitchell until stepping down as CEO a few weeks ago was both the chair of the foundation and the CEO of the corporation.

Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by nozzlegear on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @06:13PM (#39460971)
> there is no Firefox LLC.

Yes, obviously, that’s the point I was making. She was responsible for more than just Firefox, but the only thing people here can focus on whenever her name comes up is… Firefox.

Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by squigz on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @01:55PM (#39457912)
I'm just confused as to what this has to do with the content of the post
Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by TehCorwiz on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @02:07PM (#39458066)
Market share go down, pay go up, can’t explain that.
Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by mrsilencedogood on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @01:50PM (#39457828)
Just guessing, based on HN groupthink patterns:

1. that tax return shows the former CEO was paid almost 7M annually

2. sharing that on this post, they are probably insinuating that it was a mistake for Mozilla to pay their CEO that amount just for them to lose so much marketshare that they're now nearing an inflection point

The inflection point being where a negative feedback loop starts: FF loses marketshare, devs stop testing against it, sites break for users, users leave FF, FF loses marketshare, repeat

This post in particular shows that there are breakpoints where government and government-adjacent entities have policies stating that they test against all browsers with > some % of marketshare.

Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by jonathankoren on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @01:49PM (#39457809)
Once more for the people in the back.

clap The clap Foundation clap Is clap Not clap The clap Corporation clap

Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by mozempthrowaway on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @01:56PM (#39457920)
You don’t understand how it works either. Mitchell is both the chair of the foundation and until like 2 weeks ago was the CEO. She had full control over where the money goes hence why she increased her pay so much. The foundation is sole owner of the corporation.
Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by jonathankoren on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @03:52PM (#39459375)
Please don’t explain the structure of Mozilla to a former Mozillian.
Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by mozempthrowaway on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @03:57PM (#39459449)
Maybe you’d forgotten how it’s structured or maybe you hadn’t read through the foundations financial filings before. I don’t know.

But somehow you think the foundation/corporation boundary is somehow relevant to Mitchell increasing her pay so much when she essentially leads both.

Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by smegsicle on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @01:55PM (#39457911)
what is this, are you applauding the legal structure of mozilla?

what does it accomplish that excuses this level of waste?

Re:Mozilla Firefox is below PG&E threshold for support by jonathankoren on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @03:56PM (#39459434)
1) It’s not applause. It’s emphasis.

2) The entire rationale for MoFo is:

2a) Own the for profit corporation because MoCo makes too much money to be considered a nonprofit for tax purposes. (This legal structure predates B Corps.)

2b) Give money away. That’s it. It gives money to academics and activists. Is it wasted? Maybe. But that’s what do philanthropic organizations do.