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Re:Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames by thisislife2 on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @05:21PM (#39447782)
Yes, this is just Apple level bullshit - trust us with your private data even though no law prevents us from exploiting it ...
Re:Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames by stavros on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @05:28PM (#39447843)
Damn, people will never be satisfied, will they. It's not meant to be an anonymous messenger, because those have spam issues.
Re:Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames by tentacleuno on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @05:32PM (#39447875)
Signal has spam issues even with the phone number requirement, as I've experienced lately (though nothing on the scale of Twitter). I dread to think what the spam would be like without the requirement of a phone number.
Re:Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames by Stephen304 on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @06:07PM (#39448168)
At least now you can solve the existing spam problem if you want by disallowing people from using your number to message you in the privacy settings and randomizing your username after anyone new adds you - that way your username is like a one time password to add you, kind of like what lots of people here wish existed for phone calls.
Re:Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames by codedokode on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @06:45PM (#39448484)
They could collect a small amount in cryptocurrency to prove user is not a spammer. Telegram tried this but the price for not providing a phone number was too high. Does it mean knowing user's number is so valuable?
Re:Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames by filleduchaos on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @07:30PM (#39448787)
It strikes me as hopelessly naive to think that keeping a personal phone number private is the only reason a user would want to be able to sign up for a service completely anonymously. The question is not whether knowing a user's number is worth $X, the question is whether _anonymous access to your platform_ is worth $X; a question that applies equally to both innocent good-faith users and to spammers/phishers/etc. If your platform is actually worth anything, $X is not going to be a small amount.

And yet many people seem to earnestly believe that a tiny token fee will be enough to deter spam, despite clear evidence to the contrary (see for instance how Twitter's "verification" fee has completely failed to stop bots from overrunning the platform, many of which proudly display their blue checks).

Re:Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames by freeAgent on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @04:48PM (#39460059)
Threema is a paid app and I have never received a spam message on it. I have received spam on Signal, though.
Re:Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames by fsflover on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @05:46PM (#39447993)
I never received any spam in Matrix.
Re:Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames by stavros on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @05:50PM (#39448027)
That's like saying you've never seen any advertisements in the desert.
Re:Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames by fsflover on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @05:44AM (#39452253)
Re:Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames by cqqxo4zV46cp on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @06:26PM (#39448338)
Just like you haven’t received any communication from anyone about any topic other than talking about Matrix. It’s not that Matrix has a magic formula, it’s that a fraction of a fraction a percent of people care even an iota about it.
Re:Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames by prmoustache on Wednesday February 21, 2024 @03:38AM (#39451448)
Not true I don't have spam on Tox or Briar.

But sadly I don't have contacts either!

Re:Keep your phone number private with Signal usernames by cqqxo4zV46cp on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @06:29PM (#39448360)
I could certainly point out the differences, but the fact that you yourself aren’t acknowledging them indicates to me that you’re throwing intellectual integrity out the window because this product doesn’t work in the way that you want it to work. Engineering is about tradeoffs, and not every company serves to build something that does exactly what YOU want it to. I prefer Signal the way it is. I understand the tradeoffs.