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Re:Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra? by TaylorAlexander on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @01:28PM (#39444862)
Sure I asked it to generate a picture of a Swedish woman and it generated four white women that look Swedish to me (not that I would really know).

I then asked it to generate a portrait of a woman and it generated a white woman, a woman that to my eye looks East Asian, and a black woman. If you consider a random sample of all skin tones and regions on earth, this distribution seems pretty normal.

I’ve seen some people get very annoyed when people who don’t look like them get represented somewhere. Maybe those people were being extra loud about the representation. Or maybe I’ve not been able to generate the purported weird distributions you have heard of.

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Re:Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra? by nodesocket on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @01:30PM (#39444893)
Interesting, probably "fake news" then on X. Is there a way to publicly share Gemini interactions like with chatGPT?
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Re:Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra? by TaylorAlexander on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @01:35PM (#39444977)
Apparently yes, even from the Google mobile app where I did this.

https://g.co/bard/share/325bfd6d79cd

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Re:Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra? by lacoolj on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @01:56PM (#39445304)
broken so I re-did the main prompt myself

https://imgur.com/a/GjFCTRD

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Re:Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra? by TaylorAlexander on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @03:05PM (#39446192)
Yeah so to my eye, this makes sense. These are all women. We didn’t specify a location or time period or art style. There’s a certain kind of person who gets upset every time they see someone that doesn’t look like them where they didn’t expect it. But that’s their problem. Most of the human beings who have ever lived were not white. They might try to say it’s “statistically inaccurate” but they’re probably not pouring over real world statistics when they make such claims, and I expect that Google’s perception of statistics is more accurate than theirs.

Note that the alternative is the Google “grandmother problem” which they definitely don’t want to repeat:

http://www.socializingai.com/grandma-now-can-see-bias-data/

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Re:Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra? by nodesocket on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @08:18PM (#39449119)
Except you didn't do what I suggested... You just said women.

> generate a picture of a typical Swedish women

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Re:Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra? by nodesocket on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @01:38PM (#39445019)
Images are broken for me.
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Re:Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra? by TaylorAlexander on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @01:45PM (#39445141)
Weird. It seems this system still has a lot of strange quirks.
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