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Re:Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35.3B all-stock... by lvl102 on Monday February 19, 2024 @10:57PM (#39437909)
I actually think it’s worse because it’s not as natural of a monopoly as it was for the payment network space. Google and Meta actively created a duopoly in the ad space and at a global scale too.
Re:Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35.3B all-stock... by pasttense01 on Monday February 19, 2024 @11:04PM (#39437941)
No. For many of us it irrelevant if there is duopoly in the ad space because we don't use Facebook and we use ad-blockers. But in the payment space VISA/MC charge high fees which are passed onto all consumers.
Re:Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35.3B all-stock... by lvl102 on Monday February 19, 2024 @11:16PM (#39438007)
Well in the ad space, we are talking about ad buyers not so much consumers. I think a good analogy would be if ABC and NBC purchased all other broadcasters and cable channels in the 80s. And then they go and purchased all INTERNATIONAL broadcasters.
Re:Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35.3B all-stock... by Kbelicius on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @03:55AM (#39439244)
> For many of us it irrelevant if there is duopoly in the ad space because we don't use Facebook and we use ad-blockers. But in the payment space VISA/MC charge high fees which are passed onto all consumers.

Products that you buy have their marketing priced in. Even if you don't see the adds you are still paying for them.

Re:Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35.3B all-stock... by alephnerd on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @07:25AM (#39440408)
> Products that you buy have their marketing priced in. Even if you don't see the adds you are still paying for them

Marketing costs are not included in Gross Profit Margin calculations, and don't have an impact on COGS.

Marketing spend is primarily used to grow your TAM and channel customers to your product, but is very marginal spend wise.

Re:Capital One to buy Discover Financial in $35.3B all-stock... by kaynelynn on Tuesday February 20, 2024 @07:51AM (#39440603)
Visa and MC only take .1% of the 2.9% you are thinking of. The rest goes to the banks on either side of the transaction (one for the merchant, one for the purchaser).

They are however building more “solutions” to try and capture more of the transaction fees, but most people’s disdain for the payment rails would be better redirected at the banks in this case.