Re:Most People with Addiction Simply Grow Out of It
by tanseydavid on Sunday February 18, 2024 @01:12PM
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>> for some - most really - the real possibility of death and real consequences is what was necessary to pull out of it
This is not true at all for some significant part of this demographic.
And I feel compelled to mention that I am well-aware that this is totally counter-intuitive.
Re:Most People with Addiction Simply Grow Out of It
by LargeTomato on Sunday February 18, 2024 @05:28PM
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Consequences for my own inaction play an incredibly important motivational role for me. I don't get motivated by sunshine and rainbows, I personally get motivated by consequences.
So it's great that we can provide people 6 doses of narcan and act like they're big strong adults who are down on their luck, but it's incredibly harmful to pretend that this is the only possible solution to motivating behavior.
Re:Most People with Addiction Simply Grow Out of It
by sfc32 on Monday February 19, 2024 @06:10AM
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> Not letting your kid touch the hot stove at all is as bad as letting them pull a pot of boiling water down on their head.
While kids are over-protected these days, I strongly disagree with this.
The Issue, imo, is when death is not a certainty, but a surprise consequence (or sudden) due to bad or inconsistent supply, etc.
I recently met someone who it took 6 NARCAN to revive last time he overdid it. Frankly, I’m surprised his body was able to handle it - apparently it was an extremely unpleasant experience.
And, frankly, he might not come back next time.
He seemed to take it seriously. We’ll see.
Not letting your kid touch the hot stove at all is as bad as letting them pull a pot of boiling water down on their head.